I've had it up to here with the hype around this so-called revolutionary neural network "DeepSeek" that's "blowing up the charts." Initially, I thought it was just a case of sponsored media buzz, but the recent drop in NVIDIA's stock and the surge of news coverage in the CIS segment made me second-guess that assumption.

Let’s break it down and look at the facts:

If you directly ask the chat, "Are you using OpenAI's infrastructure?" (photos 2 and 3), it behaves oddly—there’s a long freeze followed by an error. We tested this on different devices and from multiple IPs.

Next, borrowing some thoughts from Igor’s channel (@seeallochnaya):

Is it really true that DeepSeek R1 is so much cheaper than OpenAI’s models? How does their business model even work?

Interesting Nuances

Here’s what most journalists don’t mention. Let’s head to DeepSeek’s Wiki page.

DeepSeek is a Chinese artificial intelligence lab that develops large language models with open-source roots. It is heavily funded by the Chinese hedge fund High-Flyer, founded and managed by Liang Wenfeng from Hangzhou, Zhejiang.

From this, two key conclusions arise:

They don’t necessarily need their models to be profitable.

They can generate income simply by releasing disruptive news that shakes the global markets.

If you check OpenRouter and compare DeepSeek’s pricing against competitors (since anyone can host models), you get an interesting picture (see photo). DeepSeek's model is hosted with a tiny context size, minimal throughput, and overall struggles to maintain quality (yellow status — performance degradation).

The Smoking Gun: Developer Documentation

When we dive into DeepSeek's developer documentation and look at photo 5, we find a blatant mention of OpenAI — and not just a mention but a direct dependency on the original OpenAI library.

Here’s a clear quote from their docs:
"Please install OpenAI SDK first: pip3 install openai."

This line makes it obvious: DeepSeek is entirely built on OpenAI's architecture and requires their SDK.

Igor's claim that they rushed this whole setup just to grab money appears true. They didn’t even bother setting up proper API keys.

ChatGPT's Opinion (Whose Infrastructure DeepSeek Uses and Takes Credit For):

Two Possible Outcomes:

1️⃣ DeepSeek is a hidden project by OpenAI: A secret testing initiative for new models (conspiracy-level theory).
2️⃣ DeepSeek was thrown together hastily: They use OpenAI’s infrastructure and blew their entire budget on marketing (the likely reality).

Final Thoughts

Thanks for your attention. Stay sharp and don’t let media manipulate you. If you share this post or its information, please credit me 😊

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Fakir was written 2 years ago: at that time I had less skills and limited opportunities, so I decided to do a complete revamp

👁 Psycho — newgen program for checking logs

- The most user-friendly and pleasant interface of all the abundance of programs on the market right now
- Reworked ALL of Fakir's past flaws and problems
- Added ALL the functionality you've been asking for for so long
- New results system
- Built-in log sorter

How do we deal with current license holders? With prices? With current software sales?

1. Everyone who currently has a license is completely transferred with the entire subscription term to the new program. We will take into account the transfer from December 1, 2024. Those who had a problem with the current Fakir: will receive compensation. Those who have Lifetime: will get 3 months of subscription... do you believe me?) You will also get Lifetime in the new program ❤️.

2-3. Now you can also buy a subscription to Fakir for the price on the forum, you will get the program and can use it, and when 👁 Psycho comes out of the ZBT (closed beta test) - get a full subscription in the new program (with all the term of the current purchase)

Closed Beta Test
Until December 30 (inclusive) you can get into the group of testers, please study the information below before submitting your application

Who can get into the ZBT?
1. people who currently have an active subscription (you can buy and get access too).
2. People who have been with us for a very long time (Discord Nitro Generator and Advmoney hi).
3. people who are customers of any software
If there is a correspondence with me, but you think you do not fall under the criteria - still leave an application, we'll figure it out

What do you need to do?
1. Be interested. This is the most important, if you don't want to test the raw product, but you have a subscription - you can just wait for the release 🍷
2. Report bugs
3. Offer your ideas on how to improve the program. In fact, the final program will be built on the wishes of testers ☹️.

Form to parcipient on CBT: https://forms.gle/q3SxC3wHMxHZXv5D6

👁 Psycho

Now you can lose all your correspondence, along with photos and messages (forever)

Experts believe that intelligence services will seize Telegram servers from the US and Amsterdam

How to export?
1. Download and install the desktop version of Telegram.
2. Open «Settings».
3. Click on «Advanced».
4. Click «Export data from Telegram» and choose what you want to save.

Officials delete official correspondence from Telegram — the order came for law enforcers, the Presidential Administration and the Government of the Russian Federation

The information was also confirmed in the army and in big business.

In front of us is the largest database of special requests (prompts), which disable restrictions in all popular neurons: Gemini, ChatGPT, Claude.

The database is constantly updated, so add it to your bookmarks and look for forbidden information at any time

Link to the base

I realize this is not your problem, but ours: we didn't ask for feedback and tried to do things the way they are. Honestly, there have been so many times over the years where I've created something and deleted it, made updates but didn't upload them, just because I thought, "Why is this update necessary? Probably need something else...". Now I want to find out from you exactly what you need and care about, because my goal and the goal of our small team is to create a product for you so that you want to use it again and again.

Let's pretend that everything before this post, including unreleased code, has faded into oblivion. All that matters now is the present and the immediate future

🙂 The first thing I want to do is to publish interesting internet related news in the channel. A poll on whether you need it will be below.

🐹 The second thing is I want to find out how much you need a post check in Fakir. Please leave reactions below this post so I can see if you really need it.

☝️ Third, if this post goes without feedback, I will accept it adequately. It's been too long, and while the project won't be abandoned, I'll be pleased to realize that someone needs it. After all, I've realized that I enjoy pleasing people more than just selling something for the sake of selling it.
In honor of that, the price of Fakir will become "people's price" 😉

If you know how to write code in React, can layout or are a designer - write me, we are open to recruiting new people to our team ❤️