WWH education 20-21. Part 26. “Avia”
Lecture#25 Avia 12.22.2020
Lecturer: feyona
So, let's begin
we will talk today about one of the most difficult directions in carzh
Flights
It is also divided into 3 categories identical to hotels
Direct driving
Revards
Agents
In general, they are very similar, but there are differences.
which we will talk about
Driving directly into airlines
In general, everything is exactly the same, we call, ask for an opportunity to pay, we receive a form, we pay
It is possible not to contact the form at all, but to dictate the card number, date, cvv code directly by phone and write off the money
But there are important details.
If we take
(for example only) Aeroflot
Then we will understand that after a successful departure, after some time
A court order may arrive to collect the cost of the ticket
Somewhere on the forum there was a similar incident with one of the sellers, a couple of years ago. But the fact remains that Aeroflot still offers telephone payments. And most likely, the consequences will be exactly as I described above.
also the second distinctive feature. A lot of AKs do not support 3Ds technology
Hence the possibility of driving in directly through the website of the airlines, without requesting the VBV code. Which is also a direct drive
And here is the most important
the surprise is that some of the agents do not process payments themselves. A
process them through AK merch.
Those. you are taken to a site, a third party site, with airline tickets
Enter data there, enter data on the card, like everything was paid. But in fact, it turns out that you paid directly to the airline that operates the flight
Which is also a direct drive
I strongly advise against flying with tickets made directly.
There were times when people
caught right at the landing. It was such that upon arrival in another country.
If everything goes much easier with hotels, then AKs are very fond of applying sanctions to such customers. Also, not the worst, but rather unpleasant option is the blacklist. For example, in Aeroflot, next to a court with a refund, you will also find a black list
Otherwise, the direction of the direct drive is absolutely no different from what we discussed on air. Therefore, we write down the questions for a few minutes and continue.
so
Miles
These are all the same bonus programs as in hotels
But here by the way there are much more of them
Each airline has, all + are the same
Lufthansa Airlines particularly distinguished itself
In 2017, there were a number of receptions at the check-in counters of those customers who bought tickets for miles
Working by miles is possible and even necessary
but here only bank miles are suitable for us
with them, too, not everything is so smooth, but it is much safer than driving in directly, or flying for miles of airlines
Where can I get bank miles?
Obviously in the banks. More specifically, in enrols
an already squeezed umb bank comes to mind
He had his own daughter, Xpedia
where you could buy tickets and make the hotel
actually a year and a half ago, when this topic began to be hammered by all and sundry, there was almost no fraud at all. People poured into hotels, made tickets, everything went great. As now I can't tell you, but given that this topic began to walk in thematic chats even then, I think not very much
There are many rolls, you can ask the sellers, I think they will gladly sell you a roll with miles balance
One more moment
where the balance of points is large enough (in the video)
Travel transes pass easily enough
since KX has already taught AF to fly frequently
Accordingly, you can try to hammer a ticket through an agent, and as practice shows, it goes quite successfully
On this, the differences also ended, we write down a couple of minutes, and move on to the final part.
So let's continue
Agents
Here, as we have already found out, there are those who will process payments immediately through the airline
They certainly don't suit us
You can check them by driving a ticket from the roller. There, in the history of the transaction, it will be displayed where and how the payment was made.
If we see an airline there, the agent does not suit us
if the name of the agent is what you need
Also, there are agents with vbv, there are no
Personal experience:
Always when I made tickets for Tajiks through agents without 3ds, more than half flew
It's up to you, of course, but there is an easier alternative way.
driving from the yusa with the discharge of the vbv
Of course, with round trips, I would not fly in with yusa, at least with long
A round trip is when a ticket is taken back and forth if that
For the reason we have already analyzed (fairly fast gatherings)
Actually, as already discussed, the banks of the credit union family behave quite well here too
more reliable way - europe avtovbv
How to look for them, we figured it out
Europe is good for its unpretentiousness to sox. Of course, if you drive it from dirty sox, you will be sent far and for a long time. But if the sox just says from another city, then everything is fine. Payments are coming, there are no meetings
And option 3, the most reliable - Europe with vbv
Here you go just like with your card, and hit the ticket
The problem is that we cannot buy such material.
and the question arises, why talk about it in general
But the fact that you cannot buy it does not mean that you cannot get it yourself)
The theme fizzles out. Personally, 2 years ago I had about 10 such banks
Now there is 1 left, whose cards are quite difficult to buy
Actually we are talking about the European Enrol
True, there are no enrolls in Europe in the sense in which we know about him in yus
But there is a rather interesting form for entering an online bank
in which you need to indicate the card number, date of birth
And that's all authorization
And already having got into the online bank, we can change the phone number, the static code of the vbv, mail, whatever our heart desires
There are also maps with a reset function in England
They give significantly better than Yusa, but also in a certain risk zone due to their charges.
And a lot of YK cards with dob are sold. There are bases on the joker.
Actually, summing up all that I have said above, we can conclude that the topic of tickets is becoming more and more complicated from year to year. And given that our colleagues in the shop to this day actively provide such services, we can conclude that there is always a way out, you just have to want
This concludes our lecture. Let me remind you that you and I had 3 lectures, Europe, Hotels, and Avia. For all three I am waiting for your questions
temporary
miles are usually paid for a large, but still part of the flight. How is the balance paid? 2. the optimal time, statistically, how long before the departure can and should you make tickets?
In case of a rally, by the way, money for the All-Union Union is also returned.
https://www.revolut.com/
as with hotels, 72 hours ideally
yarah
is there such a risk of ordering these types of services from sergikko? Will the airport / hotel police catch you and put you in jail?
feyona
I do not want to discuss specific sellers. About going to jail, the main thing here is not to argue (about hotels) and give money to the cashier when asked. And tickets, in fact, are not so expensive and cost. I can only recommend Hanibal as a performer. I know how it works and from what material. Yes, more expensive than the others, but he does it himself, and does everything right. By the way, I can't say anything bad about Serzhik, I just don't communicate with him and I don't know how he is there and why
temporary
How is the issue resolved that a Tajik is flying - a Narukhodjon Nightjar, and Will Smith pays? 4. Did you fly with your own tickets?
feyona
Where did you get the idea that Will Smith pays?) Banks check a lot of things, but not the name: D
temporary
well card data
feyona
No, I didn't even make a hotel for myself)
So the data is - card number, date, svv
temporary
that is, the idea of flying, roughly speaking, a transatlantic flight in first class - is it wiser to leave?))
feyona
Well, I would honestly leave
By the way, I did not fly first class, but 50-80 thousand rubles by working hard - you can afford business class without carzhservices
yarah
sorry for the offtopic question, but I would like to ask you, I am a valid CC from shalom.ninja and when I buy something online like garmin watch the card is rejected. If the socks are good, the anti-fraud practice is good, the card is valid, the price is $ 300-500, what could be the problem? "card rejected" in 2 seconds? it happens like 4/10 on fresh bases, is that ok? Is the joker better?
sorry for the off-topic question but maybe you can help as you are a professional lol
english:
sorry for offtopic question, but i wanted to ask you, i am being valid CC from shalom.ninja and when i buy something online like a garmin watch, the card is declined. If socks is good, anti fraud practice is good, card is valid, price is 300-500 dollars, what can be the problem? "card is declined" in 2 seconds? this is happening like 4/10 on fresh bases, is this normal? is the Joker better?
sorry for off topic question but maybe you can help since you are a professional lol
6 cards work - 4 cards dont
feyona
Look, there can be a lot of reasons. For example, how you set up the sphere. Or, what bin do you use, for example, with BOA - the Americans themselves cannot really pay for anything without calling the bank
goldenbaum
You can find out personally from you
How do you mine? Maps? Logs? Personal sniffers, stealers, KhVNTs should not be at a high level of work. Do you personally use the warrior to mine all this?) Or do you have special private partners that are not in the public?
You promised a chip yesterday)
how to select mate? By the way about this, in addition to yesterday's deductive methods of selecting the correct mate, do you use any preliminary assumptions about what mate can go to the Internet. Because just "tests" seem to be too expensive procedures.
If I ask sensible questions 2 weeks after the end of the course in PM, will you answer me? :)
feyona
Yes, like everyone else, in the same shops as you. No personal sniffers, stealers, etc. - no. The only thing is, the guys no-no give me KhVNTs, but this is so, more pampering.
A chip is a form for entering the bank that I described
Now, yes, for example, I can choose by families of banks, tk. I know similar ones (as with the credit union), but in general, the tests are just like that. Yes, expensive. Yes, for a long time. But at a distance it is very profitable
Of course I will, but sometimes, for example, I can accidentally open a message, and at this time - the forum will fall down and I will skip it. In that case, just apni if I don't answer. And don't you dare take offense at me, I do not ignore, these are evil dosers: D
We have a very difficult profession. It is very different from what most are used to. The main thing in our business is the ability to analyze and work with information. Take your time, take every step deliberately. And I will repeat to you what I say to all my disciples. What you read from each lecturer is exclusively our personal experience. Reread these lectures, make footnotes to yourself with the most important. Then, when you achieve your first successes, collect some kind of financial pillow - start deviating from our experience. Slowly start testing niches, sorting through the material, think. I wish you perseverance, good luck, and a lot, a lot, a lot of money. I believe in each of you, and I will hold my fists for you!)
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