WWH education 20-21. Part 25. “Hotels”
Lecture#24 Avia 12.21.2020
Lecturer: feyona
Let's talk today about booking hotels
The lecture is quite lengthy, you need to read it carefully. Since tomorrow we will have a lecture on air tickets, and in fact it is a repetition of today's one, in a condensed form, and with minor clarifications (the methods of work are the same)
As usual, the lecture is divided into 2 parts, this is theory and question-answer
In turn, the theory is divided into 3 parts, after each of which I give 5 minutes for you to rethink everything, write down questions, and ask me after the lecture
To begin with, a little introduction. Always be aware that a shabby hotel is only a POSSIBLE discount, and having a rest in this way without having in your pocket an amount equal to the box office of a hotel made is a much more extreme activity than skydiving.
As I said above, we will have three areas of work, and they fit very closely with what we will discuss on air. And also we partially touch on our last lecture on EU.
Therefore, I ask you to be very attentive to today's lecture, since one follows from the other, and in fact the whole main part is in today's lecture.
Now to the directions:
Hotels are made in 3 ways
Driving directly into the hotel (via a POS terminal with a mail order function / manual entry). It is also an authorization form.
Miles. Popularly revards, roars, bonuses
Agents with their own processing, who authorize payments themselves, and accordingly take the burden of settlement with the hotel
Let's start with the simplest - with direct drive
https://prnt.sc/l92yiu
The screenshot above is an authorization form. Agreement for payment from the hotel. Open up, look
The form of the Moscow hotel is given as an example, since she is in Russian
Never hit hotels in the Russian Federation and the CIS with direct punches, it is fraught.
Actually to the form
An authorization form is an agreement for payment for hotel services.
You give "your" consent to write off payment for accommodation and additional hotel services from "your" card
How do I get this form?
We call the hotel, ask to connect us with the reservation department
We make a hotel reservation, ask how to make a payment remotely
You can say that you pay for a friend, or introduce yourself as an agency, concierge service
You dictate your mail, you get a contract for it similar to what I threw off above
Write to the renderer
you order a map drawing from both sides, a passport, and filling out this form
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Send everything you received from the renderer back to the hotel
Ask to send slips about successful payment
The check looks like this: https://prnt.sc/n2qpkj
When we received the check - everything is ok, you can go to the hotel
Sometimes the hotel asks you to unsubscribe to him by mail to send a form
Then the dialer records their mail
You send a letter to it, with the following content (this is my 17-year template, you can make your own):
Hello, this is (Name of caller), please provide me the third party authorization form for booking - (booking number) for my guest - (guest name). If it's possible of corse. Thank you.
A very good addition to this scheme would be your own website with the sale of vouchers
And it would be cool if the site (domain name) was registered long ago
You can find such a domain directly on reg.ru, or on forums like serchengins.guru
Take a domain that is several years old, order a website with tours for 5-10k rubles, write beautiful texts
and in the event of a meeting, if the police come to communicate with the guests, this will play into the hands very much
Never pay with a form on behalf of a guest
This seems to many to be the easiest option, but in this case, you simply do not leave a chance to your traveler. Always say you want to pay FOR SOMEONE
Those. the bottom line, the scheme looks like this: Call the hotel, ask to pay for your client, ask for a form, fill in the data, send the form and docks that the hotel asks for, send it all to the hotel's accommodation department, and wait for receipts for payment
Sometimes the hotel stupidly forgets to send you a check, in this case you wait 2-4 hours and call them again. Do not go to the hotel until checks
also an important point in the form itself
https://prnt.sc/n2qr0a
under no circumstances tick all expenses
The hotel works like this:
Form came
wrote off the first transit money for accommodation plus taxes
And then they wrote off the minimum deposit for the minibar
and when you or your guest starts to swagger around the hotel, take all the services in the spa, buy yourself a crystal for a couple of pieces of green
each of his actions, if you check the box, will be in the form of a transaction from the card
That is, he went, ate, wrote down to the room - the hotel wrote off the amount of what he ate
went for a massage - the hotel wrote off
And given that the debits go through a regular POS terminal (with the function of manual entry, it is also a mail order), they may see an error there, for which this is impossible.
And God forbid that the error was - rejected by the issuing bank, call the bank
not an inscription with a squeaky soundtrack
"The card is stolen, withdrawn"
Therefore, if you need a deposit to pay for hotel services
Fill out another form
Indicate in it a clear amount to be debited from the card. And don't tick all expenses.
Another important point
do not use the map of the country in which the hotel
Finished with the form
Sometimes, instead of a form, the hotel gives a link to the payment of the hotel in which the amount is pre-filled
and all you have to do is enter the card details and pay
but in 99% of cases they are with vbv
therefore, I will not even discuss this point, it is better to go to point 3 right away instead of this link
write the questions down for 5 minutes. Ask all questions at the end of the lecture. It's just that the directions are different, and it will be more convenient to collect all the thoughts in a heap. Reread, write down what is not clear, and we will continue in 5 minutes)
Let's move on to the second method
Bonuses, miles, rewards
I think each of you has cards like Sber Aeroflot, Tinkoff Travel and so on.
And when you pay for tickets or hotels with these cards, you are credited with miles, for which you can then take a plane ticket or to a hotel
There are a lot of such loyalty programs
conditionally they are divided into 2 categories
bank bonuses
this is what Tinkoff, Sberbank and all other banks give us
and the second category - revisions of specific hotel chains, airlines, intermediary sites
The first ones we can come across in the JUS material, specifically in enroll. It is hard to work with them, as well as with the latter.
But there are services that provide tolerable work with enviable consistency. True, I last checked their relevance more than a year ago)
Examples of hotel bonus programs: Hilton, Reddison
Just search for either logs or brute accounts of these networks
Go to the received data, in the LC choose one of the hotels of the chain, spend points from the balance, go to the hotel and live) This is specifically about Hilton and Reddison
But it should be borne in mind that not all offices with miles are so friendly
You can work on roars. And quite successfully if you deal specifically with them and very diligently
Look for offices, order software for brutus for them, go in, test, see which office is behaving
The biggest problem with this scheme is that you can often only book for the account holder.
and if you book for the owner of the account, then you need to go to the hotel and come up with a story that the one who booked will be tomorrow, but for now - we will check in (this is how a couple of services on the forum do)
But the legend is complicated by the fact that if, for example, you are traveling as a couple, then you already need a triple room, and preferably a two-room one
Agree, it will be strange if for a couple and a left brow - the room will be one-room)
too much social engineering is needed from the guest)
There are pluses in this work too
If you have access to mail (often everyone uses the same password everywhere, or you have a log where you already have a pass)
Then you can knock out its owner from the account in advance, change the phone, password, mail
and leave akki to lie and wait in the wings
well, and when you need it, we go live as if to our home and book) As a rule, if they have been lying for more than 2 weeks, they will have nothing)
With air in this regard, everything is more complicated, but this is tomorrow's story)
I don't use roars in my work
Just because it's a wildly chore. And you cannot predict in advance the behavior of this or that office
When you work with banks, everything looks the same plus or minus.
When you know your bins, you understand how much it will give, when the charge flies, and you hone it all to the maximum so that there are no problems
So, perhaps write down the questions, and let's move on to point 3!) You have 5 minutes again)
So my favorite is the Agents
Agents are divided into 2 types
Some will process your payments themselves
Others send your card to the hotel
We certainly need the first
The question is how to understand which agent processes the money himself, and which one sends the card further
I take ss with the correct number. Suppose the card number was 5555 5555 5555 5555 validity period: 05/25 cvv 555
and change, say, the date to the wrong one
it turns out 5555 5555 5555 5555 and set the card expiration date 06/26. CVV 555
We are looking for agents simply. We go to Google and google, figuratively hotel Berlin
And first, it will just throw you aggregator sites
go to those sites that google
and we begin to indicate the card with the wrong date
where we catch the declline - the agent processes itself
where the booking voucher comes out - the agent sends your card details to the hotel
respectively, we write out the first, the second for emission
and from that moment
all your actions should be recorded, as I said at the lecture on EU
work on hotels and air should be carried out exclusively with statistics
list all the agents you found in the textbook
Of course, we are looking for agents abroad, ours are already battered by life
look for the most different countries
A year ago, in February, some inconspicuous no-name agent from China handed out 4-10k armor without crashes and from any cards)
I googled it with the help of a translator, typed the Hotel Tokyo there figuratively, translated it into Chinese, and from the Chinese session I went to google
Expedia and her daughters will often come across
you can still work with them
But not everyone can find a key to antifraud, and it changes so often (this key) that many find it easier to look for others
the most important thing in working with such large aggregators is to imitate the behavior of a real user
I never go to book in the forehead the hotel I need
flipping through different search pages, looking at pictures
I open the reviews, and while I drink seagulls I read them
By the way, this is very informative when you choose a hotel for yourself - you will already know for sure where it is beautiful, and who are well spoken about)))
Your task is to pass for a real tourist
Ikspedia is good in that its merch does not request vbv (3Ds, discussed at the last lecture on eu)
that's why they beat her constantly
But the absence of vbv is accompanied by the wildest antifraud
Again, I repeat, I worked steadily with her once a week, and worked exactly as I told you above.
after you have collected the agents who will process the payments themselves - create another file
there you write out all the agents who request vbv
Those that are not asked by VBV - we carry them into a separate file. We will work with those and others)
Now to the last lecture, on working with merchandise on which there is protection 3Ds (request for a VBV code when paying).
They can be beaten by Yusa with a drop of vbv
Or eu with avtovbv
It's much easier to hit from Europe
climbs very well, there is less fraud, since the agent no longer risks anything in case of a successful payment
We are looking for EU cards with avtovbv tests
We are looking for merch with vbv, where you need to perform the least amount of actions and there is an amount of up to 100 bucks to pay
That there would be no hemorrhoids with registration and so on
Create a file again in which we will record all our tests and results
In it we write out all the bins and CC levels that we bought
We go to the site and beat our cards
Those where VBV requested - we mark with a minus
those where vbv did not ask and the payment went through - we put it in a separate file, these bins will go further
Why do you need to test up to $ 100?
But because on some banks the vbv fires only after a certain amount
say, from $ 150
And so, in order not to miss such bins, we need a smaller amount
then we go to check the bin for larger amounts, everything that will give over $ 200 will give with a probability of 90% up to $ 999
Anything that gives above 999 - as a rule, allows you to write off your entire balance
There is a third option, ey with vbv
but finding such a mate is practically impossible now
I will give one loophole to my lectures tomorrow, but it gets worse and worse every day (
About yusa
try to avoid banks like PNC
Look generally towards banks whose names end in C.U
The less popular the bank is, the more chances you have of pushing yusu into an agent
At the lectures on enrolls you were told how to roll cards
take a ftsushnuyu card, pierce the ssn and add and calmly bypass the vbv
many of these banks roll, which will give you the ability to see the balance
if necessary, you can call the bank with a request to skip the payment
The key to success is simple
The closest zip to KH soks
but the shops have recently been giving a billing address a lot, which, in fact, breaks our work with you
but we have to live with it and there's nothing we can do about it)
Let's summarize:
We bypass the public banks YUSY
Go to the Videos Sellers Topics
There you will see that some of the names of the banks that have been disclosed - they hide, and write "non-public enrol"
And some names are written)
Here are the ones they write - we don't need a hotel business for nothing)
We do not do it by driving on the day of check-in, 80% of cases the rally arrives in the first 24 hours
we do not use the material of the country in which the hotel is located
We do not buy maps of the following countries:
India, Turkey, Thailand, Malaysia, Argentina
They give well, miss very fat amounts. But they fly off very quickly
It is not at all necessary to configure the system. I work from the sphere, configs do a very good job of disguising as a holder system. When you use a log, the system.txt file contains all the information about the system of the owner of the log, accordingly you register user agents, screen resolution and languages from there, and you get a perfectly tuned machine for a specific log
Look towards mobile apps
The PC generation is becoming obsolete, everyone is switching to smartphones. When we work from the web version, we immediately throw ourselves a pair of anti-fraud glasses. So far it is quite tolerable, but 2-3 years will pass - and everything will change very much. Always think the way most people on the planet think. For my own purposes, I have been doing everything from a mobile phone for a long time. So are the cardholders. Look in the direction of android emulators, or even better - buy a live mobile phone on an android, play with the distribution of the Internet with an embedded sox (this is not for me, there are manuals on the network, I have a special router for this business) and customize the phone for the country with which want to beat. The permeability will be much higher. I think very soon the product I am using will also appear on the market, and it will be even more fun to play with mobile phones.
Do not see each other for PR. All services that write that they are reliable, without meetings, and so on - they do everything exactly as I told you today. And some don't even do that, and it's much worse)
The work of the master is afraid, you can do everything yourself. The main thing is tests, tests, and again tests.
And most importantly, STATISTICS! Write down everything you do.
You just have no idea how much it will save money, time and nerves in the future.
Write down all the names of banks, bins, where there is vbv, where it is not, how much the card gave, and how much did not
This is all an invaluable experience that will not leave you hungry in the future.
This is probably all. I look forward to your questions)
temporary
by driving - if the countries are different (kx and hotels), then for what time is it optimal to do it? 2. For what periods is it best to make reservations so that they do not fly off? 3. How to monetize all this (except for the obvious option to sell "vouchers" on VVH and similar resources? 4. What is PSC, TSU, FTSU?
feyona
I've always driven in 72 hours. I tried to do it for no more than a week. And what does the obvious way not suit you?) We were engaged in bays in hotels yet) But settling in people is also quite good) These are banks) CU FCU - credit union and federal credit union (families), respectively
goldenbaum
I think very soon the product I am using will also appear on the market, and it will be even more fun to play with mobile phones.
can you find out what this product does?)
feyona
Well, this is in fact an asus modem with the firmware that the guys made. I put a sox right there, and my phone is naked, without additional software and other things) Plus a bunch of buns, like small ones, but like necessary ones)
Who else has questions?
goldenbaum
does it look like a raspberry from MarsLinux?
feyona
Yes, something similar. Just packed very conveniently)
Put "?" who have questions)
Have everyone learned everything chtol?)
Well, you re-read this and Europe. Tomorrow we have a lecture on air, and we can discuss all these topics. Even if there are no questions now, do not be lazy, re-read, and be sure to ask tomorrow
Since there are no more questions, we will say goodbye until tomorrow) Reread both lectures today / tomorrow, make a list of questions, and tomorrow we will analyze them
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