WWH education 20-21. Part 18. «Working with Amazon»

Lecture#19 Working with Amazon 12.14.2020

Lecturer: bogdan999

The most logical place to start is with the history of this shop. Amazon originally appeared as an online bookstore in 1994, over time it crushed the entire online sales market for itself, and now on this site you can find products of all categories, there is its own delivery, gadgets, cloud storage, credit cards, you can list for a long time. appreciate the range of work :)

Amazon gives a shop, but they don’t regret money for antifraud, I think that Amazon has the toughest fraud among shops

In this lecture I will teach you how to work with this shop, namely, I will share the methods of dealing with Amazon antifraud, + I will show you some secrets that will help you make your work as profitable as possible, since there are many different nishtyaks, from gift cards to equipment and clothes, you you can take whatever you want from there, if, of course, there are enough bucks from kkh on the map

small lecture plan:

antifraud

account warming up

main areas of work: self-registers, brute, logs

parsing the drive and recommendations (practical part with examples)

PART I - ANTIFROD

It makes no sense to describe what antifraud is and how it works after the lectures you have passed. Fraud for amazon works well and filters orders for fraud / not fraud. Nevertheless, even regular customers often face cancellations and account blocking. This works on the principle of hanging an order - either it will be canceled after a while, and the account may be frozen, or sent. Checkout yourself is nothing difficult. All anti-fraud work (reconciliation of beats, address spikes, your IP, warm-up) begins after you have placed an order.

Now I will show you an example of what an order looks like from a warmed up account and from an unheated one:

https://imgur.com/a/dAhz8b0

The arrow fell from the warmed-up arrow, respectively, the order entered the base immediately and passed the manual check.

Although this arrow does not guarantee that the goods will be sent, it is a big + both to the speed of order processing and to the chance that the goods will be sent. If the order got to the manual check, then how lucky there. They may consider the order as fraudulent and cancel

it's worth saying right away that if you drive into the Amazon, then 70 percent of your work is to warm up your account. Unfortunately, these are the rules. Amez loves to be warmed. But we'll talk about this later.

Amazon operates on domains .com (USA) .ca (Canada) .in (India, usually there are only homeless people) .es .fr .de etc. (Europe), depending on the country, the fraud on the site differs.

.com is considered the most fraudulent, but knowing its features, it is easiest to work in this direction, there are several reasons for this: it is easy to find a checkmate, a lot of drops in the USA, it is easy to find dialing and other services

.de .it .gb can also be called workers, they work there mainly on gift cards, since drops in these countries are difficult to find, but if found, packs for different spikes and even fly to another country normally!

If you are still going to make a staff, then when choosing a product for the first vibration, I advise beginners to focus on the category of non-liquid assets, where fraud will be much easier. The same apples will be more difficult to drive in than clothes or cosmetics. In general, as elsewhere.

Amazon's fraud can see as your standard parameters, which you guessed about:

un, iron, cookies

and what you might not know about:

previously visited sites,

are you currently logged into social networks, google, facebook, inst, etc.

see which plugins you have enabled

check your email for his registration in social networks (the real holder will usually be registered in them from his email)

and track your behavior on the site, the mouse cursor, the page scrolling speed, and compare it with real users (I advise you to read this paragraph twice for those who like to use heaters)

the anti-fraud machine records all this in parallel and compares it with real users

This was an overview of the anti-fraud features. You will learn all other subtleties in the process of work. Let's move on to the antifraud killer - your hands and head :)

Warming up, as I said, is 70% of the work in amaz, an ordinary holder rummages around different sites, looks at goods, restaurants, facebook, cards. this stuffs the cookies of his browser, we will do the same

what can be done to warm up:

account rest 24h + (more is better)

see a sufficient number of products on the site 20 pcs +

compare the product we will buy with a similar one

view this product on third-party sites

read product reviews, rate reviews

warm up the cart (by adding, deleting an item)

let the goods we hit lie in the basket

watch the reviewer on it on YouTube or another site

with regards to time and quantity - the numbers are approximate, more is better, you will find the golden mean when you fill your hand

doing everything from this list is also not necessary, but all this will affect cookies and browsing history

you can work for quantity, and almost not warm up, but you can work for quality (in the case of a limited budget, that's it)

Universal, and most importantly, work advice on the topic of warming up: Do not behave like a thief, try to really choose the product. in general, it takes me an hour or two to warm up my .com account

PART II - BASIC DIRECTIONS OF WORK (SAMOREGI, BRUT, LOGI)

AMAZ can be divided into 2 main areas: self-registrations and work with accounts (logs or brute). In the first case, you yourself register an account and knit a CC. In the second, we use the CC linked to the account.

Let's briefly consider how and with what they are eaten:

self-registers

They work with self-registers from the antidetect browser, virtual machines, Dedicated computers and mob devices, and we also need a lot of SS to work.

when working with our self-registers, the main difficulty is to "swing" the account

Let's say we have in our hands 1 SS yus, some American express bank.

We register an account, bind our CC immediately or later, let our account lie down for a while (as a rule, the more the better, but do not overdo it, the card may die)

Warm up

3) We make the first order, as a rule, this is some kind of trifle like headphones or covers to the address kx (bill = thorn)

(this is done to lull the antifraud's vigilance)

We are waiting for its delivery

We drive in Gift, or Staf

when we made an order for kx, the credibility of the account increases, and you can already drive in something valuable from it. Do not try to slap MacBooks from self-registrations right away. And it is better to read the forum before working with them, there is a lot of information on this topic.

in the section "discussion of Amazon self-registrations"

the buildup of self-registration is not a quick process, so a bunch of accounts are registered at once and they work with them, in this case if some part of the accounts dies, you will still have live accounts for work

Brutus akki or requests.

Amazon's brutus account is LOGIN: PASSWORD + access to mail. The difference from self-registration is that the account is already swung by the holder's purchases

The second difference is that we do not know the full numbers of the cards attached to the account. And their Amazon can ask for verification when checking out. Otherwise, everything is the same as on self-registers.

Warmed up, hammered in only with ss from the account

Logs:

log - a snapshot of the system + cookies from the browser + logins with passwords + IP

The most important thing here is your cookies, the better they are, the more successful it will be to drive. forget to configure the system correctly so that the fraud does not see the difference between the kx machine from which the log was removed and yours

How to set up the system for a log? - there are many manuals in the public domain for each antique, they are different.

How do you know if Amazon cookies are good? - Easy! after setting up, go to Amazon, and go to the ORDERS tab

a) If we got to this page without entering a password, then the cookies were fresh and in full volume

b) If the password is not bad either, some of the cookies are still preserved

c) If, after entering the password, he asks to accept SMS confirmation or enter the code sent to the email, then there are few cookies and + Amazon did not recognize us, this is sad, and is almost equivalent to brute

I told you what material for work you can choose, now I will tell you what you can do with it!

Before that, a little remark, for better assimilation of the next part. It's about how shipping to Amazon works, there are 3 product categories:

1st sold and shiped by amazon - this amazon sells its goods for sale, can often be sent by delivery

TBA, this is such a Pendossian (only YUSY) kurerka from the Amazon itself, it unfolds packs for any request, even an hour before delivery.

2е fulfiled by amazon - the goods from the seller arrive at the Amazon warehouse and Amazon takes over its delivery to the buyer

most often this item is shipped by UPS

3rd sold and shiped by the seller - the seller sends the goods himself, then which seller you run into, some send to everyone

some work exclusively with one courier ups / fedex / usps / dhl

you can see it here - https://imgur.com/a/Y7lSj6T

PART III what you can do with your Amazon account (METHODS OF WORK):

drive staff into the drop: may request the full card number, the fraud in this case is increased.

to drive into the rotor and the pickup: you need to know the sellers who send the Ups, or hope for random.

drive in Gift: can request full ss, fraud is also increased.

well, due to the huge number of Amazon branches, there are many more topics that you will definitely learn about over time if you work on this shop :)

As for the staff, I have already said where to start for beginners, but about Gift I will add that they drive mostly small denominations of $ 50-150 per order, and wait for receipt, after receiving they give a break and repeat the process.

the fraud in the direction of the gift is twisted, if the account is poorly warmed up, then it does not pay with the linked ss, asks for the full number from the card for verification, which is scary if you work with other people's accounts and not self-registers

If there are any problems with a gift or an order, you can write them to the support in the online chat, they can solve it. or order a call. the call resolves a much larger number of issues, there will already be more confidence.

PART IV - DRILLING DISASSEMBLY AND RECOMMENDATIONS

I will show beginners how the shop's functionality works, and add some useful actions that will lead you to profit

First, let's go to Amazon, the example shows the usa account (.com)

https://imgur.com/a/GXSGDFm

1- Prime is an Amazon tariff for $ 5 - ??? $ per month giving buns like free fast delivery of goods, if it is connected then you

you will see the inscription Prime, as a rule, such accounts are always bold and actively used. in our case it is off

2- here you can see the viewed products, if the holder actively uses it, then you can get caught at this moment, cleaning is not recommended, but you can

3 - I already logged in to my account yesterday and threw it on a vacation, here we can see that the Amazon recognized us and the cookies work fine

by clicking on this button, go to the main menu

https://imgur.com/a/k4VrnKe

4- orders are placed here

5- all settings 2fa, email, and phone here

6- addresses to which the holder orders, here you can add a new delivery address, or do it when checkout

7- IMPORTANT! payment methods, I advise you to always screen this page when working with accounts, because when you reset your password or other verification, you will be asked for exp mm / yy

from a random card, and you can't guess

and so press button 4

https://imgur.com/a/3S7nEYZ

we see that kx does not shop every day, but a couple of times a month, this is an ideal option for us, a sufficient number of purchases, which means there is money. and since it is not purchased every day, it will not have time to burn our order.

when driving, there is always a letter with an order by mail. therefore, so that we are not burned, we must flood it, or put a filter on the mail.

I'll show you how to do this using gmail as an example (if we work with self-registers, then you don't need to do this)

https://imgur.com/a/bRu3o2u

go to the side menu, scroll to the end, manage labels => Filters => in the Has the words field, write "amazon", mark as read, delete it.

after this action, all emails with the word amazon will fall into the trash folder and be marked as read.

https://imgur.com/a/QvieghR

Let's say we warmed up as an account, and went to the checkout page, choose the shipping address, the method of payment from the proposed ones, and the delivery speed.

there are two points here:

amaz sometimes sends sms about the upcoming next day delivery, if you don’t want to know about your order, then in the field for the phone number we write the number with an error

and 2nd - you shouldn't choose the fastest and prime delivery, fraud doesn't really like it

We set a filter, hit it, and our order appeared in the orders tab, now see the screen

https://imgur.com/a/bkZrMJu

in order not to lose the order, click on the track order and copy what appeared in the address bar, SAVE by clicking on this link from any device and browser, you can get information about the order status and the TRACK number, even if you do not have access to your account.

the order can also be archived by clicking on the Archive order button, but it is better not to do this, and if you do it at least two or three hours after the order.

now it remains to go to check if the money was debited, I do it after 12 hours, if you have a problem with payment, then a letter will be sent to the mail with a request to update the payment method, and in the account above the order there will be a red inscription revise payment method, you can try to change the payment method to any already linked card or link your

if the order seemed suspicious and was canceled, you will receive an email message: Recent changes to your account, this means that Amazon canceled your order, froze your account for 2+ hours and reset your password, after this it is difficult to drive something in, but you can try if time allows then you can restore your account, lie down and try on a new one

That's all. After driving in, we are waiting for the result, I advise you to keep your statistics so that it would be easier to track errors, If you have any questions, use my article. We also ask questions in the corresponding chat on the forum. All successful work. Break 5 minutes, who still have questions? to chat

koba_787

1 - how much does Amazon react to if the mail is not impersonated with the name kx?

2 - if the name in the account is not impersonated with kx?

3 - it is not clear how to organize a self-check if a lot of ss are dead or empty already at the purchase stage?

4 - how does af relate to changing ss?

5 - does it make sense to do self-registrations for fictitious names and mail, let them lie down, and then tie ss, write beat = thorn and beat?

I understand that the answer may follow above the questions, but) will it be considered an oleg or is it necessary that ss lie down for a day?

6 - an example with acc was when using logs, right? Hence the question on the market is there still amazon logs on sale or will the only option learn to spy them on its own?

7 - are there any special distinguishing characteristics of working with logs or self-registers that we need to know about before reading the forum?

That is, I'm trying to understand if the above scheme works for self-registers and how does it work?

1- he doesn't care

2- already more serious, the counter question is why the name is not registered on kx, when drops are accepted for any names

3- well, here either look for good ss, or knit ss before driving

4- not critical, but after the 3rd time it can already throw a block

5- yes, it's better that way, it seems to me that a real holder knits ss before buying. I think it's worth to lay down a pack of self-aligners for a week, and then knit ss and beat

6- there is always

7- to heat less from logs, but there are many disadvantages, self-registers for those who are not afraid of a large amount of monotonous work =)

temporary

How deep does af go and analyze social networks kx? fullness of pages, friends, activity in general?

straight into the catch-up - how much are the accounts from the logs?

it would be too costly to analyze the social networks of each customer, af just sees whether you are logged into them or not, using macros, share buttons and other things

from 10 to 25 $

koba_787

2- already more serious, the counter question is why the name is not registered on kx, when drops are accepted for any names

3- well, here either look for good ss, or knit ss before driving

1 - the logic of registering an account, if you do not have a ss on hand, and it will appear before driving:

mail - fictional petr ivanych pendos

name ak - petr ivanych

and the name is kkh Marina Petrovna

and how then to create a self-registration, and that there would be a stay and the name of akkanut was like kx

in general, at the lectures, the question of verifying ABC by name was mentioned, often it is not. When choosing your option for work, there is no other way out. I will say this, it is not critical, but it is always better to sharpen it by driving under the ideal so as not to gain AF points

blazhkin

If, for some reason, my ss did not enter the self-register after trying to drive in (I received a refusal), is it possible to use the same ss on another Amazon self-register, or after the first cansel, this ss cannot be used on the Amazon?

you can try if ss is alive. Sometimes (with some banks) amaz sees that ss has already been added to another account and still hiss the order

yarah

There is a course by the moderator name Balachug on the WWH-Forum, where he teaches how to use Logs for Amazon / Ebay, it costs 2000 dollars, have you tried it and if you did is it worth it? thanks for the lecture.

There is a course on the WWH forum by a moderator named Balachug, where he teaches you how to use logs for Amazon / Ebay, it costs $ 2000, have you tried it and if so, is it worth it? thanks for the lecture.

No, I haven't heard about it. For 2000 you can buy yourself a lot of material, and using my lecture, forum and classmates to get many times more knowledge and profit, but see for yourself based on the reviews. Nobody sell "cash" button. You welcome =)

koba_787

Then I will repeat the question for the self-registers about the headphones that have left, because if they reach the kx, this is bad? it turns out to send them, and when did they go to beat further, but with a reroute?

This applies mainly to self-registers, where accounts are registered in a pack and part of the dead is foreseen in advance. We do not hit a new order until the old one is delivered, firstly, it is suspicious for af, and secondly, you may not receive both). And kx fly in the clouds, they may not burn the parcel, or think that this is a gift

temporary

Where is the reroute issued? does af see him? and how does he treat him if he sees?

(issued by a call or reruiter). The reroute is done through a courier, mostly sellers who are sold and ship by seller they cannot influence the order. If they have already cut it and there was no prohibition on changing the address, then the pack can be deployed only by the holder who burned the money from the card

koba_787

at what point is it correct to reroute?

after sending, when the pack has already gone and the upcoming delivery date is visible

temporary

neighbors?

yes, sometimes the same log falls into several hands, not through the fault of the seller. it just happens

you come in and there are already filters, or someone's order. this is a neighbor

so if there are no more questions, I will not distract you from the heated discussion, thank you all. good luck in job"

Thank you all for the questions

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