Ruslan Karmanov interview. Text version

Hello dear @Slavyangrad listeners and viewers, this is an interview by Ruslan Karmanov.

He was very generous to come to us, but the interview will be in Russian, because for some certain reason he will speak Russian, but I will provide the subtitles, and I hope you will all enjoy the new information on China, maybe something is new to you, or maybe something is well known to you, but I want to do a recap on what China is in general and what are the basic myths on China, and maybe what we should all know about China. So now I'm turning to our guest, and I hope he will provide very insightful information for all of us.

Q: So, Ruslan, good afternoon, thank you. Well, you understood what I said.

A: I understood everything perfectly, yes.

Q: Excellent. So, about China. Well, it is clear that in China for every person it is generally some kind of universe in the universe, everyone has their own myths and ideas about what this country represents. What is China for you?

How would you describe this country in a few words?

A: From the point of view of a Russian citizen, who I am, China is a civilization that exists next to us. In principle, the mentality of Russia assumes that China can be seen not as some separate and different country, but as a whole different world. Just because Russia's policy has been looking strictly in the direction of the West for decades, what was positive, what was negative, competed with the West, denied, fought, but all the time was in dualism.

We are against Europe, yes, who will fight for whom, to put it mildly. In general, China for Russia, for the mentality in general, it is mainly such a dark spot, really. We have a huge number of people in Russia who understand perfectly the details of European issues. That France is divided into provinces, and Switzerland into cantons, let's say. But if you ask what China is divided into, at the departure of the province of Gubernia or something else, then there is immediately a pause, although the scales of countries and.

Therefore, yes, there is a certain gap, we are much in order. Even the least literate Russian knows better about Europe than about China.

Q: Well, yes, I can confirm here, I just recently took a course on the world history, well, it is written there that it is world-wide, but I mainly noticed the transition, which is significantly going in the direction of Europe, despite the fact that China, India, Asia, in general, there are also a lot of interesting things, but the emphasis is shifted, absolutely. Western-centric civilization. Well, in conclusion, that China is a separate, absolutely universal, probably. And in relation to this universe, of course, we all have myths, because if you type, for example, just the word “China”, then the most common questions about China will come out.

Well, of course, there is also such a concept as myths. I recently came across, the first thing I heard about China is that in China everything is bad with the economy.

Let's take a look at the myths, that is, the main ones that exist, that you may have heard some kind of nonsense, or I will add.

Well, of my favorites, this is, first of all, that in China everything is bad with the economy.

In China there is nothing of their own, that they just copy everything.

And the third myth is that for some reason at the same time economically and militarily wants to take over the whole world.

That is, let's try to go through these myths briefly, in any order, as convenient for you.

A: Look, I am, according to the part of the myths, a person who is just very, let's say, already with an immunity, because the number of them that I heard and the number of myths that I understand, what in the interview, what I have on the Telegram channel, what in social networks, through me, apparently, went through absolutely all the terrible fears about China, even in the finest variations, that is, like, conditionally speaking, about how Chinese drank the Lake Baikal and chopped down the whole taiga.

I read, let's say, 20 years, 20 years, even with small alterations, that is, literally when I came to Vladivostok in 2000, excuse me, 23 years ago, I was already packed with these myths, because they already existed then.

Now, with the development of the Internet, all this, of course, has already pumped even stronger and gained an insane scale.

In addition, the more China becomes a competitor for the United States and, accordingly, for the entire system of relationships, such a post-colonial one, built by the collective West, the more, of course, they begin telling horror stories about China, because we know perfectly well this classic Anglo-Saxon colonial scheme.

There is a white twinkling metropolis where everything is good, where everyone is smart, where there is education, science and production.

Let's put it this way, such an old good England, the times of manufacture, that is, a century and a half ago.

And there is the rest of the world, some kind of black orcs, swarming somewhere down there, they are trying to do something down there with their hooky paws, they can't do anything, they can only deserve approval from the White City on the hill, and then they will be treated well, or they will deserve punishment.

That is, this black-and-white dualism, it is very, very high on all fronts.

That is, if we look, for example, at the cultural expansion of the West, even the simplest of all these black-and-white images, that is, they naturally come from Protestantism, from the simplest struggle for good and evil.

But popular literature, look how easily Russia or China are stigmatized through references to the Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter.

This is wonderful, at the level of childhood it is noted that there are good, our bright, tall, beautiful, smart elves, and a priori, the focus of all the negative, there are such crooked legs, rotten teeth, orcs, the same in Harry Potter.

There are very, childlishly, such pronounced, convex, good characters and bad ones. Well, or there in the American mass media, if you watch a series of Hollywood films, we will see that everything is, again, embedded in such early childhood, that is, in the late kindergarten and early classes.

There are such convex, colorful, to make the child easier to remember, superheroes with clearly written positive characteristics. And there are bad ones, too, with clearly written characteristics.

And in this concept, the more China began to compete with the West, the more negatives began to be thrown. Moreover, there is a negative, too, under this concept. If we talk about fake news, we can, for example, highlight the whole class of dehumanizing fakes about food.

Here, in China, they as if, eat plastic cabbage, plastic rice, fake eggs, everything that is generally impossible and unpleasant, crawling, moving, they also eat. Dogs eat, of course, cats eat everything, in general, only bad and disgusting can be done. This is done for maximum stigmatization.

And a whole block of such stories is dedicated to creating for the Western consumer or for the Russian one such a clear image that all these are not quite people, these are some semi-animals, and since they are such, you understand that then the attitude to them is appropriate, justified.

That is, all dehumanization is needed in order to then say, well, guys, what do you want? We will bomb them there, we will introduce one-sided sanctions. Why? Well, these are, as it were, people, or some semi-animals came out of the woods, and therefore everything will be justified.

Or, for example, another block of stories.

That's what you caught about the stealing of intellectual property. Isn't that great? I can even tell you where it came from.

All the terrible images of Asians that are constantly stupidly copied are post-war Japan. That is, after the war, the United States nicely bends Japan over and begins trying to do something there, to produce, well, because of very cheap workforce and in fact with the rights of slaves. Because the States put military bases there, the States thrown [bombs] there for the only time in the world, using nuclear weapons.

Therefore, there are no questions here at all. The States, yes, signed such treacherous agreements with Japan, with the first, in my opinion, in Asia, that, for example, even the US military or some American citizens could not be judged on the territory [of Japan].

That is, think about the colonialism of the scheme:

This is the level that I am a white gentleman, I came to you in a colony, your Negretian court cannot judge me in principle, because you are wild people. And I am handsome, I am in a suit, in a cylinder, what are you talking about? I can only be judged in the metropolis. Here, in London, I will go to court, and with you, well, you are wild, absolutely.

And this moment, it is pumped up in Japan.

And if we open the history of the company Sony, then it will be just about the fact that four former war prisoners of Japan, the Japanese army, began trying to assemble something from old broken radio receivers literally by experimental way. But time passed, Japan became such a right ally of the United States in the region.

And at present, this story that the stupid Asians can only dig in the old age and try to twist something from it, and they can't get anything out of all the technologies, this is their approach. It is based, in principle, on the very story about the Sony company. But now this is strictly told about China. That is, now only China is to blame for this. About the fact that, sorry, Singapore pumped up in the 60s in a similar way. You won't hear, Singapore is also good. This is such a British place, quite different. These are other Chinese a little bit.

And here is a simple example. This whole block of stories about nothing can be invented by themselves is created just on the basis of historical events, but not about China, about neighbors and a little bit about others.

Or other stories, too, about the aggressive ones.

If we look at back, we'll see that China had no colonies. Why? Well, because the local specificity of the mentality, which is also very interesting, because it is formed by such a seamless connection of several concepts.

On the one hand, this is Buddhism as a religion. On the other hand, this is Daoist metaphysics coming from nature. Here are all these feng shui, everything else, verses, everything goes from one to the other. On the third hand, this is Confucianism, this is social relationships. That the elders should be respected, that people should not steal from each other and so on.

And this seamless gluing, where each of the components took their place, it, of course, in many ways forms the mentality of China.

And therefore, the idea, for example, to capture something and build it, like any continental state, they have never had such particularly. China has always tried to solve issues within its territory.

Who had such ideas for capture? The maritime countries. We know them well.

We have a beautiful country, Britain, which fought almost with all the globe on the territory of literally all countries. The map of the world with countries where there was no British invasion, I think, it counts 20 countries. That is, this is some kind of trifle. Somewhere in South America they did not have time to fight. In Mongolia, somewhere else, in other places, they landed, fought.

Because, yes, this is such a concept. We have a safe island here, we sail from it, we, respectively, do something out there. And everything that is done, as it is clear, on this side of Suez, by the gentlemen, it is not counted on the other side of Suez. Therefore, everything is fine, everything is reset.

The British take their wonderful colonial mentality, project it on China, which is a completely different one, and say, well, if we had done this in China, then, of course, China dreams of capturing everyone. To build military bases everywhere and turn everyone into China. Although, in fact, Chinese expansionism is zero.

That is, to assume that China has an idea to sail on ships to Portugal and say, forget the Portuguese culture, you will all be Chinese. That is, you will also be a small China, but a distant one. This is not realized.

There are a lot of myths about food, about technology, about expansionism. And you can take literally any of them and start looking at it in more detail.

Q: Well, that's interesting, I'm now interested in economics, because now this is such an important topic. I am interested in the relationship between, for example, the economy of the European Union and China, because I myself am on the territory of Europe, and I notice that here, in general, the economic decline is quite serious, because, after all, Europe is a market for China. How much the state of affairs in Europe has affected the economy of China, and how it can go on at all.

It is clear that it is difficult to predict how it will all develop, but at least approximately. I understand, we will see.

A: Look, yes, I'll tell you now.

Well, first of all, why do we now see a small splash of stories about the fact that China is dying terribly?

There will be an annual report, now at the end of December, on 2023. It is clear that China will show the growth figures of GDP much more than the United States and much more than the European Union, which is now under the effective Ursula-Scholz course of control. That is, there is no need to guess. We already know this now. That is, so that they show some decent growth figures or tell about the growing European industry, even very stubborn people will not believe it.

Therefore, Chinese results are lowered in advance and it is said that they did not reach, did not jump. That is, this is a classic of propaganda. If you know that China's GDP will grow by 5 percent, and you can't do anything about it, that is, you can't say that the United States has grown by 10 percent.

That is, you say that in general, all of us, that is, about 15 secret experts, as Reuters loves, this is a signature of Reuters, a reference to a large number of anonymous experts. I love this very much, the inflation of experts. That is, at first there was one anonymous source, then there were several, and in the last story about China, such a reference from the series ...

You know, they could not write, we imagined the news in the editorial office, and they write, according to the report, 8 sources from the Chinese government.

I imagined the scale of the government and thought, oh my God, half of China, the Chinese industry works for Reuters, well, what has the industry already reached.

Therefore, it is said that according to our information, China generally wanted to grow by 8 percent, and the growth, you see, less than 5, that is, did not make it, and the emphasis is transferred from real growth to the imaginary lack of traction to the planned growth. And that's it, then the whole article, all the texts are dancing on the fact that they did not jump, they did not reach.

That is, conditionally speaking, the boy Vasya went to the gym for a year, trained, began to squat with a bar, I don't know, 130 kilograms. But not 140, which means he spent the whole year in vain.

And this is where the wild accent is made, although in fact his results have grown.

And that's it, very, very good approach. Therefore, now a lot is said about this, because there will be results.

Moreover, there was covid, it was necessary against the background of covid, there was such a thesis from the West, how China is wrong with covid. Although, in fact, China addressed very correctly, they prioritized not the financial issues, but preservation of the population.

That is, all the tough quarantine measures are justified by the fact that, unlike the United States, there were no mass purchases of black bags and burials in China. Because, indeed, the scales were pressed very hard by tough measures. Because, yes, if people at certain moments are not told in tough manner that we will punish you brutally for continuing to walk without a mask, yes, they will not understand.

Therefore, since China, just a year ago, about December 16, 2022, began to remove the quarantine restrictions, the whole 2023 year, of course, in terms of growth, this is some kind of rebound after covid, but covid was with everyone, with the whole planet.

And Western propaganda tries to get out of hand, it tries to say that China is recovering badly because they came out of covid badly. And we are not growing so fast because we got out of covid right.

That is, this is absolutely absurd logic, but this is the point of view that is being promoted. And now the great propaganda forces are thrown at the fact that China could have done better this year, but did not. Now about Europe, about integration with Europe.

If very briefly, then the situation is, of course, simple.

Europe is a huge rich market. Europe is 600 million people with a high level of consumption. And, of course, Chinese production of everything, it is mainly about Europe. The railways of the New Silk Road, which run through the territory of Russia, Kazakhstan, the Republic of Belarus, further to Europe, they all take containers with goods to Europe and everything is consumed there. In the same way, container trucks come, they are unpacked somewhere in Hamburg, or in the area of Dresden, and everything is fine. Then they are spread across Europe, that is, this is perfectly understandable.

Now Europe is poorer, because the cost of the resources has been raised, and, of course, the mass of restrictions in trade with Russia, that is, just these very chains of delivery, which the Western politicians love to discuss, they were forced to be torn apart under the laugh of the intellectual Scholtz, which was terribly funny.

But miracles do not happen. If this is the case, then, of course, the level of income is falling, and the level of consumption is also falling. Just imagine, that is, China is, conditionally speaking, driving 100 containers with some headphones, tablets, that is, goods with high added value. If earlier a German burger could calmly update these headphones twice a year, because, well, what are those 120 euros, so what?

Then, if his utility payments risen, and the main questions he has are how to pay all the bills at the end of the month, he, excuse me, will just postpone this purchase, because he will say, you know, on a laptop produced last year, you can work and not die.

With a tablet you can also live, with a phone you can also walk not necessarily it must be the latest model, no problems. Therefore, naturally, the economically worse in Europe, the worse for China, because his active shopping market is decreasing.

At the same time, the rules work in both directions, because Europe produces less, and, accordingly, in China it also sells less, especially those goods that were exactly the European feature.

Here, for example, in Hong Kong, the situation is that the tourist flow has been restored in a year, well, because the quarantine measures have been removed, everything else. And now the number of tourists is almost pre-COVID. That is, now everything is compared to year 2019, and it is even better, given our protests in Hong Kong in 2019, to year 2018. In general, almost the level of 2018 has been chosen now.

But the difference is just this VIP, all these boutiques, all sorts of beautiful European brands, they can't get out. They are sitting on sales somewhere at the level of the third from what was calculated.

What is the third? This is horror. They have huge, monstrous, completely rented stocks there. Because what is it to rent a beautiful, large shop on the first floor in the center of Hong Kong? This is crazy money, just monthly.

That is, you need to sell this Louis Vuitton there, really, so that there is a queue, then you can fight back. It doesn't work. Why? In Europe, production has become less, because in Europe there are problems. And, accordingly, European goods that could interest the Chinese, that is, the most beautiful European one, Italian, all kinds of fashionable products, French, it has become less and China also buys less.

Therefore, the turnover of goods falls not only in one direction, but also in another. And why? Because someone smartly decided that if you tear down gas pipelines, if you introduce a pack of sanctions, it will be wonderful. And the fact that the utility bill will rise 6-8 times in the enterprise, it will not affect anything.

In fact, we see that it affects, but it affects very interestingly. For example, the German BASF is now transporting production to China. They have signed two contracts on construction.

That is, such significant enterprises, they are not [running] from China, which Western propaganda also likes to say that they run the from China. They run to China, because everything is fine in China, with predictability, with political stability, with consumables, well, with utilities and so on.

And therefore, there are no problems either.

As for the European-Chinese relations, I personally see that there is Europe and there is the European Union with its leadership, which is essentially a liquidation commission assigned by the United States.

They behave in the same way as if they had to drown Europe as much as possible.

Because there is a violation of economic ties, a violation of correspondingly industrial ties, a wild influx of propaganda, that all these are terrible enemies.

Now there are restrictions on the level of Chinese students, let's not accept them in universities. Why? Because they are all spies. What can a Chinese first year student, who came to enter the Italian university, for money, spy on? In general, what can a first-year student spy on? No, the United States actively promotes the pressure on students. That is, even at the level of such human exchanges, when one goes to another to learn something, they try to suppress as much as possible. And this European-Chinese interaction can be considered just like that.

That is, in Europe there are separate comrades who are trying to say something, like Orban, who says, you all got a little carried away, let's stop there, let's think a little, maybe it's not profitable for us. And they say, nobody asks you, is it profitable for you? We have a big global goal, and therefore we will all suffer as we want.

Well, plus there are separate European countries that play the role of such ready-made exchange coins for China to provoke a conflict. Well, a classic example is, of course, the Baltics.

An epic with all these wonderful Lithuanian tricks, when the small proud Lithuania said, we will open the representative of Taiwan. Yes, China, of course, did not say it herself, that is, such a country of such dimensions cannot just assault China like that.

Naturally, someone from above chose just a small country, which still has no special purpose, it is on donation from the point of view of the eurobudget. Let China scold her, well, she threw a little on China from the face of Europe. There was an epic, China, on the one hand, cut off economic relations, the country had problems, no magic from the fact that they tried to build relations with Taiwan did not work, and all this was quietly stifled.

Well, this is just an example that in order to worsen the common European relations with China, even a separate small country can be spent purely for provocation. Therefore, yes, the issue of these relations, of course, is so big and serious.

Q: Yes, and what else is interesting to me, a thought came to my mind about student exchange.

That is, students from China came to Europe, for example, to study, but I don't think that they came only to receive knowledge, because it seems to me that there are also enough universities in China and in Russia where one can study.

That is, it is not a matter of exchange of knowledge, how much about exchange of human experience and people coming from China to Europe, when Europeans communicate with them and see that in general they are the same people, absolutely normal and adequate.

Of course, it was an attempt to limit the inflow of adequate people from China to Europe, to show that they are all wild there.

A: Yes, yes, exactly, that's how the United States does the same thing, student exchanges stop, minimize, why?

Because it will be very difficult for you to explain that in China everyone works for a bowl of rice, walks in formation and sings the anthem of the Communist Party. If you have a young guy who will go somewhere in Shenzhen or Shanghai to study for a few years at the university, you will not make him believe a single propaganda, he will say, well, what are you telling me, I lived there, I saw everything.

Well, what hymns of the Communist Party are you talking about? No one even remembers this at all. That's why the stop of such exchanges is an important point for the further dehumanization.

Here is a simple example of protests in Hong Kong in 2019, a mass of young people on the street.

The most interesting detail is that less than 2% of the protestors who were interviewed have ever been mainland China.

That is, imagine, for this you have to get to the subway in an hour and a half and go out, that's it.That is, China is across the border, that is, Hong Kong borders Guangzhou with the province, but they did not go, why? And because what to do there, there are only wild things, there is horror, horror, etc.

Here are people, they are literally 20 years old, they are already pumped up by all this, because they have never seen what is there. They believe that, conditionally speaking, all these Chinese skyscrapers and types of cities are Potemkin villages, there are all the poor and so on and so forth.

And propaganda works and works super-efficiently, that is, only in 2019, recently, it was possible to take such people out on the street to fight communism. Although this legendary terrible communism, they have to drive 30 kilometers to the north, you can see what terrible communism you have there. But they don't look, because it was clear to them that someone had already explained to them that everything was bad, in fact. Therefore, this stop of human exchanges with China, yes, it also works very, very much for this.

And therefore, in the opposite direction, the increase of such exchanges, all sorts of youth exchanges, competitions, let's declare the year of youth sports together, these go there, these go there.

There are people who believe that, oh, this is the government, they just wash money on this, the nonsense is complete, well, why, who needs it? Nothing like that, a pack of personal connections is established and the barrier of mutual perception is significantly reduced. That is, after that, it will be extremely difficult to promote any negative. Even if a small percentage of the population is like this, it will already be difficult to sow global hatred among the mass youth. Because if you have 100 people, 3 people will say, well, listen, why are you bothering me? I was there and explained to my peers that this is some kind of nonsense, then everything will go down the drain.

Therefore, yes, these exchanges are quite an interesting thing.

Q: Well, yes, and about communism, I am very interested in people, well, I have my own idea, but we are all the same, as it were, from the Soviet system to come out, so for us this is a slightly different concept. But for the Western audience, what is communism with a Chinese face, what does it look like?

Because everyone is represented, you know, Marx, Engels, Lenin, parades with the red flag and so on, and everyone marches like in such a good anti-utopia. It is also desirable that the aerostats soar over the city with these loudspeakers.

A: This is very, very well marked, this is the general image.

Look, in the West, in general, the image of China is diligently pumped into a kind of such conjoined image of Asian communism, a kind of hybrid of North Korea with anti-heroes of American films like Rambo, in which he continuously kills an innumerable number of people with dark eyes, everyone is necessarily wearing a cap with a red star, and the plus is applied to the painful rudiment of the United States for Vietnam, where, in principle, they just got a little bit of a treat from such people with a red star.

Therefore, it turns out such a conjoined image, which is projected on modern China in 2023. Now let's talk about the fundamental basis. What is the subtlety of China? China does not build communism with any party. This is the first point where Western propaganda immediately breaks.

That is, China immediately, at the Mao level, has said that he would build socialism with Chinese specifics, which, in principle, means hell knows what. That is, this term immediately becomes wildly blurred.

You can remember the late USSR there was such term as Swedish socialism. It was even a very cool thing when the Soviet man at the end of life of the USSR, when his consciousness had to be shaken, for this very attractive images of the West were used, and if they are dug into memory, that is, I, too, yes, I was born, I spent my childhood in the USSR, I remember all this perfectly, and these images were very cleverly selected. They just hit the consciousness of the Soviet man.

And here, for example, about cleanliness, that in Switzerland the roads are washed with shampoo. About work in Japan, robots have been doing everything for a long time, people are literally in white suits, sitting behind monitors, no one works with their hands at the factories. Well, in general, no one wants to work at the factories, and this just shows that this is the right thing.

Next, Europe. Scandinavia is appreciated as terribly rich. That is, literally all Scandinavians are such, that is, this image worked on women just like howitzer on a straight line. That is, these are such two-meter blondes living in their castles. Just everywhere is the fjords of Norway, everywhere is this beautiful nature of theirs. The nature is really beautiful, that is, Scandinavians are all great at this.

Q: Well, in nature, everything is kind of limited, you know, because the houses of the 50s and 60s were built with thin walls. I live in the village, I just have all this beauty nearby, these “castles” are so beautiful to me. After the country from which I came here, it was even wild for me to see such things. I never thought that one could live in a wooden shed, but it turns out that one can live and even calls it home. And it even costs some big money. And the fjords are even beautiful.

A: Yes, these images were very cool. And one of these images was just the Swedish model of socialism. Why was this image needed? The image pursued a very simple goal.

Let's talk about the Soviet people. You have bad socialism, with the robbing Communist Party, the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, everyone rides on the black Volga, they even have a dacha for everyone. That is, there was such a level of wealth that this black Volga and dacha said that a person's life was successful. Everything is in chocolate. And they have socialism, right, their people live richly, and the officials, they live like ordinary people. These are all the stories that in Europe all officials ride bicycles to work, and so on. These are all such small rams that were hit in the head of a Soviet man in the 80s and told him, you live like this, everything is bad for you. Because they govern incorrectly. If they had governed correctly, everything would have been the other way around.

You can also remember, for example, anecdotes that were popular at the time, that all rich Arabs, they sent their children to study in the United States, and such stupid children of rich Arabs. Because they study there, and an Arab child calls his father Sheikh and says, everyone rides a bus, I want to ride a bus too. And the father buys him a bus. These are late Soviet anecdotes, too, about what they were about. About the fact that they invest oil money into the future, and we, in the USSR, do everything wrong.

And there are a lot of such rams. And these rams worked a lot consciously. And what did they lead to? To the USSR was being destroyed much easier. And all this is exactly how it works.

And returning to the Chinese topic, it is exactly the same here. That is, the West also acts in the stories about China and its stigmatization. There is a terrible Communist Party that builds such a caricature communism, you know, from American posters and comics of the 60s. This is the brutal one.

I talked to a friend in a bar, an old American. He told a very life-long story about propaganda, what kind of propaganda it was. He says when I was little, we lived in a very poor state. We ate only potatoes... And why did we eat potatoes? Because our state leadership was digging bunkers everywhere. Because communist planes will fly by and bomb. Therefore, bunkers must be dug everywhere.

And he goes out so smoothly and says, that's why it happened like this. I was just at school with the son of the person, who came up with all this. And he told us this to the children. And we laughed, we thought, what a stupidity. But it can't be that we just dug like this. And he says, well, what do you like now? I am a personal driver in Hong Kong, and he is a senator of the United States. That is, the situation has spread a little differently. Because someone was in such a topic in the stories. The one who promoted the stories about the terrible red-star aircraft, he was just and turned out to have money. Therefore, this is exactly the American image of the Asian threat. It is sold perfectly and broadcasts perfectly, regardless of what is in reality. Despite the fact that the Chinese Communist Party does not really build communism. That is, it does not do this.

It builds socialism with its specificity, which is expressed in the fact that there is private property, there are private property rights of the means of production, there is private business. That is, it is difficult to say exactly, to put together a full image. There are elements of the Soviet NEP, there are elements of abstract socialism, which maybe somewhere in Europe they would like to build. But the general economic system in China now, it is such a balanced state capitalism with a strong social bias. Therefore, it can be called that.

At the same time, what I want to note, again, what I said before in terms of the fact that the Chinese mentality, it is glued together from normally colliding several concepts. For example, there are religions of Buddhism and Daoism, they do not compete, they just exist. We still have more Western consciousness in terms of what? We should have or-or. That is, this categoricity begins to be sewn up.

That is, who do you support? These, or these, or these, or these. We have such a thing that a person says, I am a Catholic-Muslim, this will cause several surprises. How does it connect? And then add, well, and a Judaist sometimes. This will be a very strong blow. Because how? But for the Chinese, this is all normal.

Therefore, it turns out that thanks to such smooth integration, all the ideas of socialism and Marxism, in particular, as a foundation, they lay in one more layer and only increased, they did not kill the previous ones. Therefore, we are now taking a modern Chinese successful businessman.

He has everything great. He has a house by Feng Shui, because all the elements should be balanced, everything should be good. He has Buddhist holidays. He puts incense. At his entrance there is a small altar with incense. Some fruits, some kind of rice bowl with incense stuck into it. Everything is fine. He pays the contribution to the party. And clearly observes the decisions of the party, participates. And at the same time, he tries, in terms of capitalist production, to become the best producer of some, I don't know, stuff in the area. He has it all at the same time, wonderfully, and lives without conflict in his head. And this is probably one of the most powerful Chinese features. That no negative is terrible, it does not pursue. Moreover, he is familiar with Western culture, but he can also become a Christian. He will wear a cross, he will read the Bible, he will say, well, I follow everything, everything is fine. And he will say, I am also a Christian, by the way, yes, a lot. Yes, this is how it happens in China, this is the norm. This purely Chinese feature.

It will provide this indifference. Because we are all faced with contradictions. From the series, if you take Russian politics, for example, there is dualism, communism or Orthodoxy. Fine, invented in an empty place. But pumped so much that when we hear the Orthodox communist, it is clear that some kind of clown is waiting for us now. Clearly clear, wonderful. Although, in fact, for the Chinese, he does not understand why we immediately begin to laugh. He will say, well, as it were, you can combine. This mentality of the possibility of uniting such, it would seem, contradicting things is probably the main Chinese force, thanks to which everything is happening here.

And this is the main incomprehensible thing in the West. That is, in the West, the same thing. If you take the United States, in the United States, competition, dualism, it is laid. That is, for example, politics, the eternal struggle of Republicans and Democrats.

There, excuse me, dynasties vote for the same and the same, because the grandfather voted for the Democrats, and you will vote for the Democrats. No one is interested in the program anymore. No one is already reading what they offer. This is a Republican state, this is a Republican village. The Democrat came, spit on him. Why? Because it is so accepted here. You are either for the red or for the blue. Everything is clear, everything is good. Either for Donkey or for Elephant. That is, it is impossible for them to explain that in China, for example, this can all be compounded.

And therefore, when they start to impose their ideas on China, they get this illogicality from the series, if we were China, we would fight with these, we would build a colony here, we would do that. And the Chinese look and do not understand why such actions are expected from them.

Q: Yes, it is very logical, in general, it fits into this whole system, because this difference in worldview creates this conflict. And in general, I noticed that the further we go to the West, the less, perhaps, civilization remains in the original sense, and indeed, more and more people are going into such a dual system. Probably this is a problem, maybe they cannot just live differently. This is generally a good question, need to think about this topic.

And another very interesting, well, maybe interesting or not interesting topic was in one of the chats, I also noticed a discussion about China, that China wants to take either Kazakhstan or Kyrgyzstan, and there were such arguments that there are a lot of resources, China needs resources, and now China will come there and seize.

I say, well, guys, China will not seize it in order to keep the territory, you need people. Well, roughly speaking, I have a great piece of meat in my refrigerator, I can grab it with my teeth, but more than I can bite off, I can't bite it off. Anyway, the rest will fall. I say, the same will be with Kazakhstan, with Kyrgyzstan, with whatever. China can take as much as it can, if it decides to take it at all. I say, they don't need it. But they began to prove to me very realistically that there are no resources [in China], it is necessary [for China], and in general they have a lot of people [in China]. I say, well, people are all in the South. Can you explain this situation as a demographic distribution, so that it is clear where people are mainly concentrated, and what is the North and South of China, what are they different from each other?

A: This is a very precise moment, because in order to understand what is happening, you need to know this demographic of China.

Look, if we cut China nicely, like with Samurai Sword, somewhere from Manchuria to Vietnam, diagonally, from top right to bottom left, then behind this line, on the conditionally warm shores, in the East and in the South, about 95% of the population lives. But there, on the left, at the top, where is Inner Mongolia, where is the border with Russia, where is Xinjiang-Uyghur, where is Tibet, there are actually very few people there. Why is that? Because it is easier to live in the South. And there is simplicity of moving within China. It leads to the fact that young people are massively involved in working in the South, and serious changes take place in decades. That is, the simplest example is about overpopulated China, which is "overriding" Russia.

The border province of Heilongjiang, which is on the other side of the Amur river, where is actually the the same as Taiga, like we [Russia] have and now it is up to minus 40 by Celsius, that is, it is really tough there, there are Amur tigers running across the border here and there, everything is harsh there. Ten years ago, there was a population of 37 million people, now it is 30. Just imagine the pace. What is this from 37 to 30? This means that, firstly, all the young people have left, secondly, they are dying there, and no one is being restored, that is, no one is left. And why? The salaries are small, the work is hard, the living conditions are hard.

A young person says, excuse me, I understand everything, we have a single city, we have a coal mine here. Working in a mine for 3,000 yuan in the frost and so on is one thing. You can go to a salesman in a kiosk somewhere in the South, here, in Guangzhou, walk in slippers on New Year's Eve, do not worry at all, have food, housing and so on from employers and get the same money, not doing physical labor, being in a much more comfortable situation and having the highest density of social services.

That is, the same thing that needs to be understood. When they talk about China in this regard, that is, when it is necessary to say ill about China, a mutually exclusive approach is very often used, several mutually exclusive theses are declared.

For example, China is actually empty, the people are not, and China is overpopulated, and now millions of hungry Chinese will rapidly flee across the border with Russia. This is broadcasted simultaneously. Why? Well, to capture everything, all possible scenarios of the development of events, so that it can be captured.

In fact, the Western audience, to be honest, is already with a fairly washed-out head, and it can put itself in mutual contradictions. This is a very important point of propaganda. That is, when a person wants to figure something out, he does it in his head from separate facts, connected chains, logically connected, and, building it all up in his head and combing it, that is, turning single facts into knowledge and understanding of how it works in general, he simultaneously conducts a fight with fakes in his head. That is, he, by logic, understands that if this and this, then this cannot be.

For example, if China actually dies out, there is three times less population and continues to die out, then it cannot be overpopulated. That is, or it does not happen at the same time. In fact, the density of the population in China is very different. And just in those places where they show how densely everything is populated, everything is very densely populated for a simple reason.

The highest level of integration of social services make life simply convenient there. That is, I live in Hong Kong. Everything is OK here with the density of the population.

You can type Hong Kong houses on YouTube and watch "horror movies" about terrible, monstrous conditions. In fact, why do people go, why do they live in small apartments, and so on? Everything is in step availability. In any residential complex below you have shops, sports halls, and everything else.

A bunch of residential complexes are built, to put it mildly, right on the subway station, that is, down. On the elevator you can get to the subway station. This is all in step availability.And there is a huge choice. That is, if you live in such an area of Hong Kong, not even the densest, you will have about three minutes, let's say 50 schools, hundreds of children's sections, about 20 sports halls.

All this is much better, in fact, than a situation where these services are located very far away. Therefore, people are additionally washed out of such small Chinese northern cities for this simple reason. What is the point here? Most people who easily eat up this overpopulation bait, these are city residents, who are used to living in poorly provided urban conditions.

If you take the Moscow district of new building, there will really be a little bit trashy, because there will be houses on the field, and the social infrastructure will be about nothing. It just won't be practically in places. In comparison, for example, with Chinese residential complexes, you can honestly say that heaven and earth, and it is very easy to explain to people who live in such conditions, that, imagine, the house would be three times higher, the wouldbe be three times more apartments , it means that everything would be even worse. And then the concept of overpopulated China comes to mind.

In fact, here, in our mouth of the river, where Hong Kong, Macau, Shenzhen, Guangzhou are the nine cities, there are about 200 million people. That is, 200 or more, almost 300. This is amazing. Population of Russia plus Japan live on a scale of tens of kilometers. It's just very powerful. But at the same time, the conditions are quite good. And in the north, respectively, there is a problem. In the north of China, that's what I mean.

For some reason, there is another additional problem. Urbanization. That is, the Chinese party perfectly understands that to provide an even level of quality of life throughout the country, if there are hundreds of thousands of small villages in the country, it will not work. In any case, the residents of small villages for 50-100 houses, they will be deprived. They will feel bad. Therefore, urbanization is forced. And in China, it is going quite hard. A bunch of new buildings areas, you know, which they like to show as Chinese desert cities. That's exactly where 20 villages will enter in a month. Yes, because they will say, that's it, guys, that's enough. Let's give you an apartment. Just take it for a symbolic amount and move to live. Because this way your level of life will actually rise sharply.

This is also associated with, let's say, the famous lack of culture, which the Chinese note in big cities. This is the first generation from the village that arrived. They really grazed the goat just 15 years ago. And yes, of course, time will pass until they adapt. But all this is a natural process, and they are inevitable. That is, if for one and a half billion people you want at least some acceptable living conditions, like what China likes to say, we are pulling out of poverty, then you will have to pack them tighter. Because to lay concrete roads to all, provide 5G connection with opto-fiber, provide delivery, shop in step availability, it is impossible if you have hundreds of thousands of settlements. Therefore, yes, China collects people very clearly into cities, into big ones, and this process is going on. And this also has a strong impact on demography. And when, for example, this process takes place in some national region, such as Xinjiang and Yughursk, Western propaganda tells us, see, see, those bastards, they decided to destroy Kishlak. They can't make Kishlak as comfortable to live like the city.

Yes, 20 years ago, there was terrorism in Xinjiang. Very serious. There were terrorist attacks. That is, people with knives ran, cut 30 people. That is, there were pumped with all these "Islamic" mega-ideas by the way by experienced people, from then American Afghanistan, which is across the border, comrades.

And also, Chinese, they like to dig to the core. That is, when they communicate with those who are caught, they explain to them, those who were detained, that I'm like a boy there, I am only 17 years old, and all I can do is herd goats. An American uncle with a beard came to me, said that he was a representative of true Islam, showed photos of Shanghai and said, see those skyscrapers? They live there on your account. You are poor here because they are rich there. And that's it, here is a social base for such attacks. Therefore, the movement of the population within China is also tied to this. That is, there is simply no other way out. Otherwise, the gap at the level of life will be completely mad.

Q: Well, that's logical, in general, yes. By the way, I also noticed that in Russia, sometimes when you communicate with people, some people like to shout, but here we have an empty deep, the villages are empty, people are dying. I say, well, people leave for the cities, this is natural, this process is going on all over the world. Well, I don't know, it doesn't play in people's heads that it's normal that we are moving from an agrarian civilization to an urban. But this is a natural process now. Perhaps in the future it will be different. Now it is so, and we live in it, it just needs to be accepted as a fact.

And what else is interesting about the relationship between China and India. Because I had to communicate somehow with a person from India. There, as I understand it, well, maybe this is a separate person. I don't know what is happening at the state level. But I know that there are constantly some misunderstandings in the border areas. There is something there, they cannot share.

How is this conflict, well, not even a conflict, but this whole situation, how does it look from the inside of China?

A: The conflict there is long, the conflict is also, in fact, civilizational. But it is still being multiplied by what?

First of all, the Hindus, of course, have huge claims on the topic of their cultural significance and conditional. Because India is, of course, a very ancient civilization with all its moments. There is no doubt about it.

India has a specific caste system. This caste system was very much liked by the British conquerors at one time. Therefore, during the colonial existence in India, it only increased and increased.

And it just doesn't comply with the Chinese system at all. Because in China, this preset division of people into varieties, like that you were born there by Brahman, and this is one thing, and you are there to the Kshatrian, and this is a completely different conversation. This is absolutely not included in the Chinese mentality. Therefore, in order for there to be misunderstanding, there is a base.

In addition, of course, there are conflict territories. That is, if you look at it like that, then on one issue only, where is the border with Tibet, Nepal, what is it, and how is it all connected with each other, there is a separate huge song, who conquered whom, who was the winner, who was the looser, who offended whom and who moved to the border.

At the same time, in fact, the current territorial conflict with India is probably the largest in the world. That is, if you count the area of conflict territories that China and India have, which raise the question of whose they are, then there will be, in my opinion, more than 20 thousand square kilometers.

Yes, most of these territories are, to be honest, high mountains, and there is nothing to do there, but this is a matter of principle. Therefore, it is very important who moves the borders and where they put their flag.

The West had a huge bet on the conflict between India and China. That is, Washington pumped it five years ago before Covid, but it was just a horror. That is, propaganda of everything against China was going on in India, at the wildest rate, and the fact that you need to fight with China over the territory was an axiom that you need to attack.

The West would certainly be great if two one and a half billion population countries started a fight, because it would be such a meat grinder on the border that the scales would be the largest in the world, because these are the two most populated countries in the world. That is, half of humanity, to be honest. That is, if you look at it this way, one and a half billion to the left, one and a half billion to the right. This resulted in the conflict on some areas close to the border. They can even be found there. These battles of the year 2020, in my opinion, from 2018 to the 2020 year there were clashes.

But I also want to note that on the one hand it was strongly stimulated for it to start. On the other hand, the sides have known each other for a long time. That is, China and India are completely different civilizations. They have known each other for a long time, and therefore there is a certain code of conduct on what is not allowed. Therefore, the interesting thing was that they started, it seems, to kill each other, but two military units come together in the highlands. That is, imagine a height of 4 kilometers. Excuse me, it's already hard to breathe there. There the men come together in the cold, in the blizzard, and they agree that it is not necessary to shoot, otherwise the war will begin.

The units disperse, pick up the sticks, and they push each other out with the sticks. Why? Well, because they agreed so. And it looked completely crazy. That is, you know, such a cyberpunk. That is, each side has nuclear weapons, drones, laser equipment. In the end, two groups come together, and on the one hand, on the other hand, they know each other's language. They say, so, we only fight on the sticks. Why? Well, we don't want war. But there is a conflict, but there is no need in the war. And such a wonderful moment happened.

But then Covid with Covid became simpler, everyone stopped being troubled by that conflict. And of course, the States were cruelly broken. But there is a conflict between China and India, of course. What is it tied to?

There is Pakistan, which India, of course, treats specifically, because it considers it a little bit of itself, but not the right one.

There is China, which is actively working with Pakistan.

And this also what India doesn't like. That, since you are friends with Pakistan more than with us, then this is, respectively, not very good. And at the same time, the most wonderful thing is that Russia reigns over all this, which has good relations with India historically, with China.

Therefore, Russia is the only negotiator who can talk to both those and those, and trade with those and those weapons, but at the same time say, do not conflict, do not fight.

And this situation, it will still develop. A lot depends on what changes will take place in India in terms of the authorities. Because in India, some time ago was still betted by the West as on China's opponent. And then we read a lot of news in the Western press that, do you know that all production from China will be transferred to India?

Because there are also a lot of people in India, which means that production can be developed there, but India is democratic. India was urgently called the main democracy of Asia in the West. This is such a term.

A special reward means our support against China. To emphasize, you understand, totalitarianism is fighting against democracy. And, in general, everything is frozen in this moment now. That is, everyone is looking at what changes will take place in the Indian government and whether they will affect the regional interest.

Q: Yes, I paid attention, I'm just a little interested in Indian culture. I noticed that there are such institutes, let's say, which promote, I recently found 17,000 years of continuous Indian civilization. I was a little surprised, because the way of life settled for 10,000 years, as we see. And then suddenly such a number of 17 000 of years came out. Well, and it became curious, researched a little bit, the roots, in general, stretch to California. And such things, well, it's very interesting in terms of how, I just still remember about Hong Kong or Taiwan even more, that there, too, about some unreal ancient authenticity, but there is at least some kind of…

A: You understand, this is standard Ukrainianization. That is, the smell of lard flies over this topic that we are the most ancient, the wisest, came up with a wheel, gunpowder, launched the moon and so on.

This is a standard set that the West gives out to such countries.

Q: Moreover, no, I understand when, let's say, this is in the Baltics, I just encountered this in the Baltics, that there was a Latvian language derived from Sanskrit, and that in general, then I found a video on YouTube, that the Lithuanian and Sanskrit are similar, but I know a little Sanskrit, but they are not similar, but there are common roots, but they are in Russian, there is in English, there is, but the whole big language family. That is, for me it was wild to hear all this, but okay, when this policy is offered to such small countries, which are the shards of the empire, somewhere there, that here you live badly, because here they live well there, they subjugated you, but when, let's say, to such great countries as India and China, which, in general, civilization is even separate, this universe can even be separate, but this concept is offered to them, it becomes a little strange. Therefore, I wonder how people inside this civilization, give in something like that if we take, for example, Taiwan, that is, it seems to be a territory with a high level of education, it must be how do young people fall into such topics?

A: Well, the example of Taiwan here is just chosen very interestingly, because there everything is not so unambiguous. Taiwan is positioned in the West as such a counterweight to China. This is a fairly standard scheme of the Potemkin village. This small, good, white, democratic one is located next to the big, evil, totalitarian one hanging over it.

In terms of Russia, you can recall the stories about Georgia 20 years ago, when our wonderful Russian bloggers, still then in Zhezhe [LiveJournal blogosphere], just got tired of writing that now there will be a breakthrough in Georgia, the technological state, the IT cluster of the world, transparent police departments, zero taxes.

All these stories were also about the fact that if you want to destroy a big, bad country for you, then you should make something small next to it, immediately declare it correct, good, indicative and say, look how people live.

On Taiwan, this scheme naturally was pumped up since the time when it fell under the American influence, when there was still an American base. Taiwan is just an example of the fact that with American investments you can pump a separate branch of the industry. When you said about the intellect, everything else is also a nuance.

Only one sphere is developed on Taiwan, this is the microelectronic industry. There, from Dutch and Japanese production powers, that is, machines, under the American leadership, engineers from mainland China make chips. We don't know anything about Taiwanese cars, about Taiwanese space, about Taiwanese, in general, everything in terms of some serious achievements, like nuclear energy and so on. We only know about this chain of production brought from outside, one component on the basis of which, look at what small, smart, developed Taiwan is.

No, Taiwan is a narrowly specialized colony. There are just colonies that only produce coconuts, there are colonies that only produce bananas, and there are those that only have microchips. It does not affect, it does not empower development of everything else. Here is the simplest example of the beginning of COVID. Taiwan is exactly the same as Ukraine said. We develop the vaccine ourselves, the best, the fastest, and, of course, better and faster than in China. How did it all end? With no result

The biotech sector has not developed at all, they simply have no power to come up with this development.

And one more point.

Such things about the fact that you are unique, great and ancient, they just got the most comical development in the region in Taiwan. That is, in the same Ukraine, everything went perfectly, that is, you dug out the Black Sea, the Cossacks launched submarines, in general, all this nonsense is toxic. It was accepted straight away. Because the rural resident has nothing more pleasant than to come up with a fairy tale about how much better it is than the urban ones. That is, this is also everywhere, this is normal everywhere. For example, in the Chinese village styles of Wushu, in each, in each, this is an encyclopedia, there is a legend about how our village master defeated a visiting one from the city, because it is pleasant.

So, in Taiwan, it turned out how? They were also explained all this, but it led to additional separation inside. That is, there is no collected Taiwanese society. There are, in parallel, first of all, those who came from the mainland after the lost civil war. This is after 1949. This is relatively new. And these are ideologically anti-communists, that is, these are, roughly speaking, "white" refugees. Because they, of course, they are against it, because they lost the war. This is for sure.

But there are locals who lived before that, but identify themselves as correct Chinese. That is, we are Chinese, but other, we are indigenous, real Taiwanese.

There are locals who come from practically originate from the real aborigines of Taiwan, who, let's say, in a simple and Russian way, are generally from a different ethnic group. They are, to be honest, such oceanic comrades, they are like Polynesians. That is, they are more similar to the residents of Papua New Guinea. Those real ancient residents of Taiwan are like an island.

And thanks to the fact that Taiwan once was a Japanese colony, there is a unique community of people who consider themselves Japanese. And they say, you see, the Chinese are telling us here, and we are Japanese in the soul. And the Japanese are the Aryans of the East. Accordingly, the spread of all these myths led to the fact that in Taiwan now the vinaigrette, which the Western media, for example, are diligently trying to interpret as this democratic Taiwanese society, it is united against Beijing, it builds democracy.

But from this community, white threads climb in all directions, because there are very different people, descendants of very different waves, who have not yet coexisted with each other and have not assimilated. And despite the fact that there is a powerful propaganda that we are cool, we are like this, it is really hard to hide. They see that they live normally on the mainland.

That is, this is a normal topic, that the communists are poor, rice is harvested in the fields for 12 hours per day, on their knees in the mud, and then they sleep in straw huts. And you are beautiful here because you are friends with the West. It works all the worse, because these moments of propaganda, well, they really do not comply with reality.

If a person is exposed to propaganda too much and it does not comply with reality, then he either breaks down and goes crazy, or he stops believing, that is, there are no options. So, in this regard, Taiwan is a separate topic, exactly interesting in these details.

Q: Yes, it just seemed that it was some kind of monolithic society, but it turned out that these are really absolutely different groups, that some kind of unified community cannot be discussed. For me, this is an ordinary region of China, which is a bit more distant, as it is an island, simply with its own ethnic composition.

And I am also interested in the relationship between Japan and China. That is, it is clear that they are not simple due to historical reasons. How does China look at Japan now?

A: Everything is quite simple with Japan. Japan is hated by all its neighbors, Japan fought with everyone, in absolutely harsh, absolutely inhuman way. Japan arranged colonial issues in Korea, and captured the coast of China, and a piece of Sakhalin, and, accordingly, Taiwan too. That is, everything is very simple with Japan. In the case of any fight in the region, Japan will be beaten by everyone, just because everyone has such a number of claims to Japan that it is not in their interests to start any, more or less, tough clashes.

And there will be not one, only Comrade Kim, Kim will simply be the first to start shooting, the main thing for him is for it to start. That is, it is clear from the person that he is waiting for it to start, when it will finally be possible to discharge everything that was accumulated. Historically, therefore, the situation for Japan is extremely bad. That is, yes, thanks to the fact that the states made Japan their support point in the region, of course, Japan has some advantages. But it is good when these advantages were parallel with really more advanced technologies than neighbors, with a really good, strong economy, with a powerful production sector. It was all, excuse me, 30 years ago, when we all knew that the best audio technology was Japanese, we knew Japanese brands. And there, 15 years ago, we knew that, for example, in a laptop Sony Vaio, this is a really expensive, high-quality laptop, it is clear to everyone. And we know, with Japanese transport, the same idea, that Japanese is forever, it is long-lasting, high-quality, and everything else is similar. Now the situation has changed. Japan is stagnating, the population is aging. China is also aging, but, excuse me, Japan is 15 years ahead of China. This problem started before, because, indeed, the age is growing, social services are needed more, they are working less and less.

And besides, the specifics of the Japanese mentality in many ways do not stigmatize this situation, which boys and girls call hikikomori. This is something that parents live with, respectively, up to gray beards, and they do nothing but upgrade their computers so that games are modern. That is, he sits in his room, he has food there, he is washed, he has enough cigarettes to upgrade his computer, and he is fine. Because it is not stigmatized, that is, no one tells him that he is a jerk. It turns out that the situation is getting worse.

Everyone was just waiting for a super automation, everyone came up with it themselves. Legends about Japan said that Japan is the most automated, there is literally no need to work there, robots work there. Unfortunately, these legends appeared 50 years earlier, a situation when robots will really do everything. That is, now modern technologies are actively developing, they are developing everywhere.

In China, for example, China, literally biting the bit, is now automating, for example, agriculture. If you look at this topic, for example, what kind of agro-industrial drones and everything else. It's crazy what is being done now. That is, imagine, a Chinese grandmother, respectively, she fills the drone with fertilizers, he flies, he sees from above where the fertilizers need to be spread, it spreads them on the field himself, it can just as well lower and burn the weeds, he can just as well say where to water the field, that is, only he is in charge of the business.

Therefore, the number of people who need to serve the square acres of the territory, it all decreases. Everyone was waiting, everyone was telling this in the 80s, but there was no such thing then. Japan was exposed to the fact that its population began to age, to work less, and it simply became less before the automation reached the desired level at Japanese factories. Therefore, we are now seeing the collapse of purely Japanese production.

It is made in Japan, you will now find less and less, because there is simply less work. Accordingly, the economy begins to fall. Japan has a huge debt already on GDP, but Japan is not a state.

After all, our Japanese yen is not a currency that, you know, can be printed with a roll and get out of the situation. If anything, we print a trillion, it will not work, they will not get it out. Therefore, the situation with Japan is now complicated. On the one hand, they need to remain pro-American, because if they still argue with the United States, they have no luck at all, simply at all. Because this is the last one who keeps them, like, you are our outpost in the region. On the other hand, due to the fact that they are friends with the United States, they are forced to accumulate American treasuries, that is, the states print money, these papers, and you can see that Japan has been the world Nr.1 owner of treasuries for some time. They buy American debt, because they, roughly speaking, are called from Washington and told, come on, buy it, otherwise you will not have anything else.

And the power of Japan, their production is decreasing. Therefore, any conflict that will be, it is very unpleasant for Japan. Therefore, the situation in the region is so complicated.

On the one hand, the conflict is expected. On the other hand, with each passing month, the Japanese economy, against the Chinese, is getting worse. And, accordingly, if so, then there may be new problems.

Q: And what about South Korea? Because, for example, I heard such an opinion that young people, let's say, in South Korea, they are such Japanese fans, so immersed in Japanese culture. That is, well, among young people it may be. Well, maybe it will pass with age, of course. But Korea is also, as I understand it, more pro-American. That is, how much is the relationship between Korea and China in general? What does this configuration look like? Well, I mean, the South Korea.

A: Look at the topic of Japanese culture. Japanese culture is, of course, the most powerful weapon that works all over the world and in the region too. In our country, excuse me, in these protests too, among the leaders of the youth protest, a famous local anime girl was specially set up, because there are so many fans of Japanese culture that they had to be put on the opposition's side. Because, yes, of course, this soft power of Japan works perfectly, without any problems.

And, yes, in South Korea, just South Korea, what else is the situation? In South Korea, this pop culture of theirs, because this is their soft power, K-pop. There are endless female groups of K-pop, which are crazy there. Every month hundreds of new ones come out, and there are people who distinguish them. I have seen such people, they are alive. That is, this is already gift on its own, that is, they know by names. This is, in principle, such an achievement, you know, you can immediately take a person into reconnaissance, because if he can handle this, that is, to deal with K-pop groups, this is already a breakthrough.

And thanks to this, this career in Korea is very high-quality. To get into this magical area of Gangnam and become a pop star, and you are immediately at the top of fame, you have money and everything else, of course, there is the cruelest work. That is, all these girls, let's be honest, just work like crazy. Just so, that against their background, there are ballerina trainings, performing in leading theaters, it's just a kindergarten, because there is a terrible regime, just some kind of concentration camp. But it works, and South Korea, it is such a producer of show business for the area.

In addition, South Korea is, of course, also a strong industrial cluster. That is, this is probably the largest non-Chinese industrial cluster that exists. Because South Korea is electronics, and its own, like Samsung, Hynix, this is shipbuilding. These little Koreans on the square, they are in one person produce several times more ships than the States. That is, everything is very serious there. And therefore, industrially and in all other aspects, they are also quite strong.

But why do these questions look to the side of the States, look to the side of Japan? Well, this is, to be honest, that very Stockholm syndrome. That is, they are a former colony, and through the denial of the fact that we were a colony, they come to the fact that, well, after all, they are good there, they are noble samurai. That is, the mistake of the survivor is such. We are alive here, so they didn't kill everyone. That's why you're sitting here and discussing how humane they are, because you grew up from those whom they didn't kill in their time. The logic is false, but the youth can explain it quite problematicly.

China, of course, wants normal relations. But China is closely integrated with North Korea, and there, of course, the issue of Korean unification arises right away, which is also separate and complex. Because, to be honest, there are three Koreas, because in the area of China, which is close to Korea, there is the Korean Autonomous Region. Koreans live there. That is, it is still China, but Koreans live there, and there are practically only Koreans. Therefore, the issue of unification, such a big Korean one, has not gone anywhere. The war has not been stopped there, as we have with Japan, for example. That is, the region, in this regard, is in danger of fire, because, to be honest, no one has conquered anyone to the end and has not lost to anyone. Everyone was stopped for a while and somehow left.

Therefore, China, on the one hand, builds relations with everyone, normal ones, tries to be friendly, let's work, and the United States, respectively, is trying to lean in the other direction.

Here is a recent visit of comrade Biden to the leaders of Japan and South Korea. He was basically talking about this. Let's be friends against China. But in the modern world, after all, the neighbors of China do not really want to be friends directly against China. And they can be understood.

Q: Well, it's clear, yes.

I am also interested, since we have already gone through that region, Vietnam. That is, now there is such a ... Well, somewhere I read that Vietnam will be developed as a counterbalance to China, as a place where to produce. That is, the global factory will gradually move from China to Vietnam. How real is this? What kind of relationship does China have with Vietnam?

A: Great question, great topic. Because just recently this question has received its further development.

So, look, somewhere a couple of years ago, the topic really started. You know, let's be friends with Vietnam instead of China and bring the production there. There are many people in Vietnam, more than a hundred million. That is, it is small on the map, but there are really a lot of people there. There is a fairly good level of education against the background of the rest of the Indo-China. This is exactly what I will say. I have been to Vietnam many times.

And yes, there are people, in general, well, not in Cambodia.

That is, if they tell you, let's build a factory for the production of laser technology in Cambodia, then it will immediately be a little clear that the simple question is where you will get so many people there, who understand at least something in general, he will be the first. After all, it will be better in Vietnam.

But in Vietnam, the Western media just pumped this topic very much, that here we found an alternative to China, and they did it. Biden, when he came there, announced about mega cooperation and about investments, and so on.

But everything was decided by time. Over the past year, Chinese investments in Vietnam have grown a couple of times. And the American ones fell to the level of something less than a billion dollars, even less than half a billion. That is, the Vietnamese were, as it should be, the most cunning. That is, these are the very ones who in turn fought with France when they were French colonies, with the United States, and then with China in the first war between socialist countries. And Vietnam won everyone everywhere. That is, on a Vietnamese plane, on a fuselage, there were three big red stars on it. They, roughly speaking, fought with everyone and remained within own borders. That is, everyone let them be. Only the USSR kept good relations. That is, we never fought against Vietnam, we fought only together with them.

Therefore, it turned out that during this time, while talking with the United States, Vietnam still inclined to say, let's be friends with China, after all, we are close, not far from the border, and we, our people, will agree. And all this mega initiative, which, yes, was really pumped, ended with nothing. That is, there are no projects. In a year or so, not a single, even a starting contract on the construction of any American production, well, or pro-American, which will be in Vietnam.

Therefore, it can be said the following, that Vietnam will not fall out of China's orbit. Vietnam wants to, respectively, to join the BRICS. They already clearly understand what is happening. Vietnam wants logistical projects. That is, China says, let's build you a railroad, let's do everything, we will work together.

Because now this is generally a fight around Indochina. That is, this is just where Vietnam is, where Cambodia, where Laos is in the center, where Myanmar is at the top of the border, where military actions are now going on between them. Fighting is on the Chinese border. That is, the media does not really speak of that. I am writing about that on my own channel, but in general, to be honest, on the border with China, two pro-Chinese groups deal with each other using tanks and artillery. That is, this is already a bit of a serious scale.

This is all Indochina. This is a huge region, several hundred million people, with great potential. Because again, these are Asian comrades who can work well, produce well, and on the resources of everything else, too, a very good thing. That is, yes, indeed, there was a project to replace China with Vietnam. It was probably, I'm not lying now, in 2021 they began to roll it out. Yes, that's what it is. Yes, and now we can say that nothing came out. Although there was a visit by Biden, which was simply rolled out like a mega-super, literally, you know, like a usual media coverage. Well, since he flew there, then of course he will agree.

In fact, this is not a consequence.

That is, this is the scheme that since the Western big white gentleman flies to some foreigners, then the foreigners, of course, meet him with flowers, fall on their knees and sign everything. It has not worked for a long time. But many continue to believe in this.

So, with Vietnam, thank God, everything is fine.

Q: This is good. Because I also have such a question about the attitude to the so-called European values and everything else. Well, as it seems to me, among the healthy parts of the world, a skepticism begins to grow in relation to the general West, the collective West as such, in relation to these values ​​that are being promoted there.

And now to visit the same Biden as the white gentleman or, let's say, well, like Schultz or Ursula flew to China, this is simply indicative.

A: Yes, yes, yes.

Q: That is, the center of the world is gradually, well, Europe and the United States, apparently, will have to accept this, that the center of the world is located in another region, and will have to take this into account.

A: You know, very well, in this regard, one African comrade, when there was a meeting with China, there was a meeting format of China and the country of Africa. And there one Chinese comrade, African comrade said very well, that when someone from Europe comes to us, we get a lecture. And when someone from China comes, we get a bridge or a road.

That is, this approach of Western diplomacy, yes, it is now collapsing. They cannot get out of the colonial paradigm.

They are white people coming to unreasonable foreigners. They must meet kneeling foreigners and smiling beautiful foreigners in these very, in such flowers. This is the standard, because they are white people, they carry civilization, and they should already be apriori grateful for this.

Therefore, when Schultz or Ursula flies to China, and they show what happened recently, it was actually a terrible shame. That is, the diplomatic, the diplomatic idea in general is to negotiate.

Kissinger recently died, yes, from the last such monsters, which, of course, were in Wurdalak [ghoul], but he was terribly mature. And this is a person who was met in China so that, I remember, I also reviewed on my channel how he was met, how table was served a table with what...

Q: Yes, yes, I read, I remember.

A: Yes, he was simply shown that this was a man from the West who could speak. How do all these temporary rulers, like Ursula, act? She flies in, she reads a list of her requirements and postulates, exactly, declares. That's how the poems are declared, yes, children, having taken a stool, she declares them, she is not ready to discuss them. That is, this format excludes diplomacy, but is still called by the old diplomacy.

Therefore, as a result, we have that the last diplomatic activities of the West, they always fall predictably. Why? Because, on the one hand, people come, read the list, do this, that, that. The other side says, but we will not. After that, a clinch, because the first party is not ready to discuss. That is, the same Ursula, the same Schultz or Berbock, these are wonderful examples of people who are literally saying, you will go to China tomorrow, you will voice those five points, that's it. And after they voice it, they don't do anything else.

Therefore, I am very interested in reading about such blessed forecasts, that, well, if they fly, then now they will bend, they will agree. What will they do? Well, how do you imagine, for example, Asian diplomacy, when a list is rolled out publicly to such a large face, you have to do this, that, and he does it. This is a terrible humiliation. It means that he will immediately put himself in such a subordinate position, that he will lose his local status instantly to the level of the floor.

And therefore, all these visits of Biden, indicative of eurodiplomacy, they have recently shown that in general the Western diplomatic theme has degenerated. That is, they travel through the colonies like they did in the old days, give instructions, then, completely frozen, say, listen, are you not going to do something? They are told, no, we will not. They leave, and after that the media begin to try to pull out some kind of victory.

For example, all summer American officials went. Sullivan went to China, Yellen, that is, the main one in finance, went to China. Once they arrived, you know, every time this visit was highlighted identically at the information level. Such an American person goes to China. Well, if he goes, then he will agree. and you may count China and Washington are best friends. They have already signed an alliance. What did it all turn into? Well, literally nothing. Moreover, China, in the end, even at the Chinese level, that is, it was very clearly visible, it was already breaking away. That is, to bring China to the point that China, at the diplomatic level, began to behave not quite ideally, this is already an achievement. But, sorry, the main financier, Yellen, they made her a banquet in a hotel restaurant, where she stayed. This is terrible for such a level. Ursula was sent back with the economy class by plane.

That is, what needs to be agreed upon with the Chinese for you to fly from the face of the European Union, and they bought you a ticket to the economy class and said, just go until we get you here. I don't know, but apparently they agreed on something like this. And all these diplomatic things, they look terrible now.

Therefore, real diplomacy exists. That is, if you look at how our people communicate with the Chinese, specific problems are discussed, some agreements are signed, something begins to be done. The parties may have different approaches, but the parties agree, the parties change the conditions, the parties change the discussion. Therefore, you know, it is also interesting to watch when, for example, they try to neglect the results, of Mishustin's visit for example, now the spitting on China has already begun.

Yes, they began to agree on such a gas pipeline route, but now they are discussing another one, that is, the negotiations have failed. Guys, if they started discussing this one, and now there is another option, it just says that the negotiations are going on.

The negotiations have failed. This is when Biden comes and says, it means that we no longer need to communicate with China, we no longer need to be friends. It is clear to him, he flies away and they continue. This is what has failed.

Q: Well, I noticed that people have a simplified understanding of what a negotiating process is, and, oh my God, and diplomacy too.

I always say, guys, diplomacy is not a fight behind garages, where you go, you fight and everything is clear. This is a more complicated process, but when they hear the word negotiations, then either everything is very good or everything is bad. There is no third intermediate option, so I also wanted to clarify this position about all these visits, because when they write, that now Biden will come, and in Russian speaking segment everyone is like, oh, now it's time they come to an agreement, now everything is a nightmare, China will betray, and so on. It's just that these moods, they discourage.

A: It is the illiteracy that discourages that this happens dozens of times, and there are people who do it, and wait for something. God, what are you waiting for? I don't know, that Schultz will fall out of the marasmus and say, God, we are now buying energy resources eight times more expensive, my economy will die now, or what?

That he will find out that, for example, in Europe, food production is decreasing, because both energy resources are becoming more expensive, and they prohibited to buy fertilizes from Russia and Belarus were at the same time expensive, and there was no supply. Just imagine, there is, let's say, the Netherlands, there is the province of southern Holland, there are greenhouses with tomatoes, there you have to pay for the rent of the greenhouses, pay the salaries, and they take the cost of heating and lighting the greenhouse and raise it eight times, and then they say, listen, this is not enough for you, let's not give you any fertilizer too. This is not enough for what there is, for heating, it will also grow three times less, because without fertilization, on this European soil, on which they have been growing for centuries in one place, they simply will not grow at all, guys, this is not a new soil, these are the same lands, for such a long time, that is, this suicide is pure. No, they say, you can't trade, you can't trade with Putin, you can't trade with Batska, they are bad, so sit without fertilization, and understand that this mechanism is the simplest, that there will be such processes, but people somehow surprisingly do not understand it.

Q: Well, people are still in some kind of their own information reality, you try to get people out of it, well, our channel, in particular, we try, we do such work that we tell what is really like, so I am happy to cooperate with this channel, but in general, if you take mainstream media, this is of course a disaster, well, I don't know, it seems to me, in this case, until the refrigerator wins, well, until people don't open their refrigerators and don't see what they have there, in general, in reality, this moment will come soon enough, because we don't have cheaper than 5 euros per kilogram for tomatoes, and then try to buy it, that is, it is clear that this process will continue.

A: This is already above the Hong Kong balance, and I think that the income here is definitely different.

On the subject, by the way, of relations between Asia and Europe, remember, there is such a wonderful thing, the Paris syndrome, it is described for the first time exactly as the syndrome of shock in the Japanese women who came to Paris, and they were so unsatisfied with this romantic, major expectation that they had a disorder that needed medical help, that is, it is not even in China, but in Japan, but now this thing becomes massive, because the rich Chinese middle class, who always knew that if you are rich, you are a man, you need a suit from Hugo Boss, the car should be German, well, there are such points that you must fulfill so that everyone in the native Chinese village understand That Liu has risen, that everything is great in him, and they went on excursions, to put it mildly, and fell into shock, that is, from the fact that there is dirt, from the fact that rats are running in the Yelisey fields, they did not understand how it was, and this has acquired the character of mass in recent times, and the Western media throw it all on propaganda, but in fact the tour flow even decreases for the reason that those who went say, guys, guys, you better go to Disneyland, and, you know, watch a movie about the knights and so on, it's great there, everything is beautiful there, the dress is good, everything is clean, but you don't have to go there, you can be very disappointed.

Q: Well, in Paris, yes, I was there in 2004, with a small but proud country, but at least it was clean for us. When I came to Paris and saw these spaces of lawns, some papers, the absence of urns, it was generally a shock for me, well, it would seem that I came from the post-Soviet space and I should have just come to the delight, but somehow I wasn't delighted, so, well, and then we have a similar architecture, that is, well, it should have been more familiar, I imagine there is a person who comes from China and expects to see some kind of wow, and this wow is not at all wow, well, that is, yes, apparently this is a disappointment, yes, both in politics and in culture, and even in Europe itself, as I understand it, it is boiling over the world, well, maybe it is useful to everyone, as it were, to cut it off, and everyone will go not only their own way, but, well, yes, probably we will move in that direction of the multi-polar world, that is, everyone will build their own country based on their own convictions, they will seek common language in different countries on the basis of their own cultures, based on their own interests, rather than to some hegemon, well, this is my opinion.

Well, I think we will finish, we have already spoken for an hour and a half, thank you very much, it was very interesting for me, I hope we will meet again and see you, thank you very much,

A: thank you, all the best, goodbye.