September 19
О цвете хвостов B5N2 Каги
Факты
Posted By: James F. Lansdale <LRAJIM@aol.com>
Date: Wednesday, 27 September 2000, at 9:39 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Kaga Brown Tailed KATEs (François P. WEILL)
We have relics from three different Kates brought down at Pearl Harbor. Several large pieces are in the Nimitz Foundation Museum. They have been extensively analyzed by Greg SPRINGER. I also own two samples. ALL have a base coat of hairyokushoku (gray-green). All have some degree of dark green over-spray on the upper surfaces. NONE have any evidence of brown paint and, at least these three, were NOT aluminum metal on the lower surfaces.
There are a lot of opinions out there about these colors. I have only worked on the pieces available and have not speculated about these colors from b/w photos.
James F. Lansdale https://j-aircraft.com/faq/kate_faqs.htm
Posted By: Greg Springer <gspring@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wednesday, 27 September 2000, at 5:26 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Kaga Brown Tailed KATEs (James F. Lansdale)
So far, all artifacts at Nimitz have been said by their donors to have come from the 'Hospital Kate'. As previously described, the largest artifact was a glossy color close to 16350 but slightly lighter in tone. It was oversprayed with a flat black-green ranging from 34079 through 34086 to 34084 depending on the thickness of the coat. I feel that this artifact is possibly from the upper surface of the right outer wing which survived the crash intact only to be stripped within hours by souvenir hunters.The artifact from the underside of a wing with a portion of the hinomaru is a match to 16350. Other artifacts show brush strokes and masking of red markings and require more study. I'm taking a binocular 30X microscope on my next visit. David Aiken says 'Hospital Kate' was from Kaga, coded AII-35?. HTH.
Таким образом заявления Ленсдейла о том, что есть 3 куска Кейтов с одной стороны правда, с другой стороны это 3 куска одного и того же кейта. И именно по этому Кейту есть данные, что это нестандартный Кейт, прибывший на Кагу позже и имевший зеленый хвост, почему собственно ничего коричневого на нем и не обнаружено.
Posted By: David_Aiken <David_Aiken@hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, 27 September 2000, at 7:49 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Kaga Brown Tailed KATEs (François P. WEILL)
I was of that thought, but my thoughts were changed by the sources of my mentors: H. Yoshimura, M. Asano, K. Owaki. Kaga KATE tails are brown.
Posted By: François P. WEILL <frpawe@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Wednesday, 27 September 2000, at 8:28 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Tis so (David_Aiken)
Without disrespect to your Sensei, may I point out the fact that a thin overspray of green on a red base will give you exactly what an uncomplete mix of red and green will render: a kind of dirty brown ... Is it contradictory in fact or only a different way to consider things ?
Без неуважения к вашему сенсею, могу ли я указать на тот факт, что тонкий слой зелёной краски поверх красной основы даст именно тот эффект, который получается при неполном смешении красного и зелёного: своего рода грязно-коричневый оттенок... Это действительно противоречие или просто другой способ интерпретации фактов?
Вопрос в том, что все самолеты имели красные хвосты, но почему-то именно самолеты Каги при покраске зеленым поверх красного получили коричневые хвосты, что немного странно в том плане, что почему-то этого не произошло с другими самолетами.
Date: Tuesday, 26 September 2000, at 7:21 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Kaga Brown Tailed KATEs *PIC* (James F. Lansdale)
The EII-307 was an ex-Kaga plane with a brown tail, per Replica, Jan 1990/July 1992.
According to researcher H. Yoshimura, there is other evidence within Maru, Replica and Model Art monthlys which spoke of swaps of aircraft between ships until the correct personnel or planes were in the right spot.
B5N1s had a nine cylinder engine and could not keep up with the B5N2, thus select Third/Fourth Koku Sentai carriers had a nine plane B5N1 squadron and/or a nine plane B5N2 unit.